What Are The Local Reef Stores Missing

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10716194#post10716194 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JUICEY
Thanks Matt!

I don't think it's unreasonable to see 3 or 4 different club activities going on every month. Just look at how much better the club is now than is has been. Granted, the attendance might not be as large as our regular meetings.....But I like you guys....

I'd like to go do a DIY workshop every month or two....I'd show up at a ORCA appreciation day on a sunday afternoon...and I'll surely be there on this next trip and will start asking about the next one as soon as we get back. Down the road maybe we'll have giant frag events all by themselves, and some more "sidewalk sales"

Here's the Key......Members: Be Vocal....Let the Board and officers know what you'd like to do. Be helpful.....if you come across a cool oppertunity, find out what it would take to make it happen. Be Active: Help the club when and where you can. Just because you aren't the official activities director doesn't mean you can't help out.

This club was built and is maintained by volunteers. The more people that volunteer their help....the bigger and better our club will be. It takes more than just one guy to make things happen. It's way too much work for one person....or for the entire BOD for that matter. If you have an idea, or think and want to help out....even just a little....PLEASE do

I don't think I've ever seen a situation where credit wasn't given where credit was due.

Remember elections are coming up.....This club is what WE make of it. PLEASE come out to the next meeting and put your name on the list....and after the elections are over......the new crew will still welcome fresh ideas and a bit of help here and there.


Absolutely extremely well said. This kind of participation is really what I had hoped for last year when I was co-President. It is not an easy job being on the board and it is completely voluntary without any benefit to onesself. I hope everyone really appreciates the board members, the people who let 80+ people file into their homes and on top of that they make sure we are well fed, and the people who help put events together(using examples of the swap meet, the new QT workshops, and of course everyone involved with SRC). It seems like nothing would get done without active participation from the board, but moreover from our members.
 
Thanks brother! so what can I nominate you for? I'd be glad to put my name in the hat for just about any position. (I don't know much about the website stuff)

I think if we can get a group of driven people that can lean on each other on the board.....and talk members into helping out....we can take the club to the next level with ease...
 
I could help with mentoring...I mean, heck, I'm always online and around anyways. I don't think I'd be a great activities director(and Chrisstie does a wonderful job with it). I think our President now(should he choose to accept a nomination) has done exceptional work so far and I will vote for him again. Matt, keep up the good work.
 
I think he's feeling a little spent after this year.....maybe we can talk him into a less demanding role on the board. Would you take vice matt? maybe public affairs? activities? that's where your heart is right? activities?
 
I have to put in my $0.02 here :)

First since this is an active ORCA board I want to address a quick ORCA topic about the idea of putting together a "shopping day" - I would love to try to organize something like this and think it'd be a nice thing to do maybe early November or December with some nice weather (and with enough time to coordinate).

When I was younger we would do a "Progressive Dinner" where we would carpool\caravan ourselves from house to house- each host would have 1 course to serve. It would go like, before dinner drinks, salad house, appetizer house, main meal house(s), after dinner drinks and finally dessert.

If possible I would love to mix this up with the holiday cheer around those months and see if I could convince some of the stores (with help and super shopping skills) to perhaps each host a part of a meal and we could spend the day going door-to-door enjoying a bit of food and some shopping. I'll get with the board on something like that - I know our biggest thing coming up now is the Dinner Cruise so go check out Matt's post about it!

I really don't want to comment on what stores should have, as I respect each store and its owners\operators for their choices and business decisions.

What I would like to offer are a few comments from my experience working at an LFS:

I cannot stress enough how important it is to QT! To have a healthy tank even if you trust a store, it is a very very good idea and the number one thing you can do to be a responsible reef keeper! You can only help yourself by doing this.

That said, whenever you walk into any LFS, don't be disheartened by what you don't see. While the impulse buy and window browsing can take over one's budget in this hobby, you can always ask if a store can order something special for you!

A little bit of patience can go a long way in this hobby and that is so true on this topic as well.

Many of our local stores are reef stores and try to cater to that genre. When someone earlier mentioned they'd like to see more predator fish or eels or more fish in general you have to consider a few things.

Many predator fish and eels are very difficult to get to eat. They also aren't always sought after as much as say generic goby #1 or cute blenny #5. They typically have more specialized tanks and the stores that don't carry them probably only order them when needed. Even then the trick is to get them to eat prepared foods and to be in overall good shape. Shipping IS very stressful so waiting for a fish to settle in is never a bad thing. Never be afraid to ask a store to put a hold on a fish either. Most of our stores here that I know of are all very kind and wont mind at all, depending on the livestock may ask for a deposit. No biggie, they get a little money and you get a little insurance knowing your fish is being looked after to be healthy and ready to go home soon.

The other thing is if you go to a store on a weekend, depending on when they get shipments they may have had tons of fish but you just happened to show up on a day when they were sold out of a lot of stuff. Again, don't be afraid to special order or ask to see books or get information on the fish you are looking for. If you prefer a certain store to another for livestock for any reason, it may be worth the wait to get it shipped to your preference.

You could also buy online but waiting a week or two to me sure beats a minimum of around $35 in shipping.

Also as far as having a lot of fish there are stores I've been to I would consider overstocked. Doing this makes your store look great and in small holding tanks many fish get along that wouldn't otherwise in your tank.

If you see 5 tangs altogether in a tank it may look pretty but they may have different behaviors when you take and put them in your super big tank. It all really depends on the fish. My hat goes off to any store that stocks responsibly. Having a just a few less fish really goes in favor for healthier stock and less stress on a fish.

I think this thread has been wonderful and civil and respectful to the LFS and if anything has stuck to simply constructive criticism. That's also the hobbyists job- to provide feedback and hopefully suggestions on where improvement can be. Complaining is easy, doing something beyond it to make something better is the hard part :)
 
You know I just had another thought I wanted to add here.

I think ORCA is doing an *excellent* job to help its members out... but one of the things our LFS need MOST is your business!

It is truly awesome to be able to trade with each other and get frags for a greatly discounted price at the frag auction, but don't forget about the stores we support.

It has really been a while since anyone showed me their ORCA card for a discount at checkout. Don't forget that you do get discounts with your membership!

A lot of our local LFS helped a LOT with SRC sponsorship and raffle prizes and it couldn't have been as great as it had without them - don't forget to help show your support to them for the great job they did!
 
I don't think just because people don't show their orca cards necessarily means they are not supporting the LFS. I can honestly say I don't remember the last time I showed my orca card, but that I visit almost at least one sponsor every weekend. Usually I am just focusing on what things I went to the store for to begin with, and completely forget about my orca card.
 
I'm with sytanek I never use my ORCA card, I get such good prices at the place I go I would feel bad trying to undercut them another 10%, after all I do want them to be profitable.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10749330#post10749330 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jsl6v8
I'm with sytanek I never use my ORCA card, I get such good prices at the place I go I would feel bad trying to undercut them another 10%, after all I do want them to be profitable.

I totally agree!!
 
Hey no sweat, just a reminder in case anyone has forgotten or maybe is a little bit newer and hasn't had the chance to flash their card around yet :)
 
Just a quick side note...
There are several people who are members of ORCA but never came to a meeting to get their membership cards. I have been carrying those cards around all year and I have them with me at every event.
I think that alot of ORCA members don't realize that they need their cards at the LFS because everyone knows one another.
So anyone out there who is a member of ORCA and doesn't have their card..contact me. We can work something out and make sure you get your card.
Who knows, for the Tampa Aquarium trip, you may have to show it in order to participate, board the bus or ?? ;)

So to wrap up..Make sure to get your cards from me. Contact me, PM me or see me at the meetings (I'm always at the front door).

Thanks for reading.. :)
Mel (VP and Membership Director)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10751150#post10751150 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by lusenut2
Are you really always at the front door? I never see you there. lol
If you can attend the next meeting, I will be there. (You had better be there...this one is real close to your house.)
There is only 2 meetings left where you will get to see my bright, cheery smile awaiting you at the door with your name badge.
 
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