What causes this? (with pic)

waverz

Slave to the reef!
This piece was doing great in my tank unlike any other of my SPS. I wake up this morning and find this nastiness.

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This is one of my last non infected SPS corals. I have slowly been losing all SPS for well over 6 months. At first I thought it was due to a rusty hose clamp used on my external inline heater that was dripping rust water into my tank. After losing all my SPS colonies I have replaced the heater and nearly all of my pumps.

Here's my thread regarding the issue.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2197327


I sent in a water sample for it to be professionally tested as I cannot figure out the problem. I have been keeping SPS in various tank since 2000 and can't seem to keep them alive at all in this tank.

If the water test comes back w/o any major issues I'm going to drain get rid of everything and start over.
 
if you are having low NO3 and PO4, i wont keep the alk above 7.5.
also if you have anyother system, you can just move the frag into, last time i have that happen, i just move the frag from the display to the frag tank, that stop it, after few weeks i move it back.
 
can you post some additional info on the tank. Levels, equipment, inhabitants etc...

Equipment:
Marineland 60g cube built in low profile overflow

2 AI SOL White fixtures all 40 degree optics 15' above water surface W 20% max B 80%max PAR reads 300 max at top of rock

2 Tunze 6025 circ pumps

Single piece of man made rock sculpture made from Alternative Reef

Aqueon Proflex 1 sump filter socks/fuge/return

Reef Octopus dnwb External skimmer feed by Tunze quiet one

Return Tunze Quiet One

Apex Lite- 2 EB8's- VDM

Modded Phosban 150/Reef Octopus neck cleaner Kalkstirrer

Phosban 150 running .5 cups Rox carbon and .5 cups HC GFO

Was using Hydor inline heater, replaced with Eheim Jager to make sure that wasn't the issue. I took it apart it seemed fine.


Livestock:
Red Velevet Fairy Wrasse
Loubuki Fairy Wrasse
Exquisite Fairy Wrasse
2 Lyretail Anthias
Yellow Watchman Gobie

Water Parameters as of today:
SG 1.026 Refractometer (calibrated)
Ca 450 Salifert
Alk 7 Salifert
P04 0.05 Hanna checkker
NO3 0 API
Mag 1350 Seachem

Weekly 7 gallon water changes RODI/AV Salinity Salt
RODI TDS 1ppm (resin needs to be changed)
Dosing 10 ml vinegar daily

All LPS corals seem to be doing great.

There is a ponpae birdsnest at the bottom of the tank that seems to be doing fine along with a piece of grape cap that seems fine as well. Most other types of hard coral seems to brown over a couple weeks time and then STN/RTN.

Seeing what appears to be burnt tips and tissue necrosis around bases
Very little algae in the display. Cheato seems to grow well in fuge.

Like I said I've kept SPS for 10 years never have I had an issue like this. I've even had better luck with SPS in a 29 biocube than this money pit.

Frustrating.

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I had same problem when I installed AI.

Switched back to MH, problem solved.

If you ran out of solutions try going to MH or T5.

Good luck
 
I had same problem when I installed AI.

Switched back to MH, problem solved.

If you ran out of solutions try going to MH or T5.

Good luck


I've thought about that. I am using 2 AI SOL fixtures about 4" apart. I replaced all the optics with 40 degree to prevent overlapping which in theory would cause hot spots.

I've used a PAR meter and have never ran my lights at very high percentages.

My corals are in such bad shape at this point it's hard to say if anything I have changed will do any good.

My water test should be back in a couple days so I'll hold off till then before I do anything else.
 
Waverz, I see you are losing acros from the tips. I only see this in tanks that carbon dose or tanks effected by a toxin, and in some cases stray electrical current. Stop dosing vinegar and perform a large water change. All you can do is wait it out. 10ml of vinegar per day seems like a lot for a 60 gallon.
 
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I had a bad experience with AI sol on my 60 cube. Stonies browned out and died along with many of my acans and chalices. I think I turned the AIs up too fast.

The dosing is for what reason? high Po4? High PO4 will brown out acros and cause tissue recession.
 
I had a bad experience with AI sol on my 60 cube. Stonies browned out and died along with many of my acans and chalices. I think I turned the AIs up too fast.

The dosing is for what reason? high Po4? High PO4 will brown out acros and cause tissue recession.
 
You mentioned this tank has been a problem from the start. Is it a new tank or a used one? if it was used is it possible there was copper in it before you got it? I seriously doubt the problem is from the lights. If you want to be sure though raise them to about 14 in or so and run them at 45/65/65 for awhile and maybe go back to the stock optics. I have not had a single episode RTN or STN since going over to AIs 18 months ago.
 
You have done major changes to your water already and nothing. Put your MH or T5 back as a last resort. I was in your shoes and got fed up with all the % tweaking on my AI and as soon as I placed my MH back the stn stopped and the color came back.

I tried raising the AI , switching the optics etc nothing ... Corals were going down hell. However, some were OK like the bali stag and red digi.

regds
 
You have done major changes to your water already and nothing. Put your MH or T5 back as a last resort. I was in your shoes and got fed up with all the % tweaking on my AI and as soon as I placed my MH back the stn stopped and the color came back.

I tried raising the AI , switching the optics etc nothing ... Corals were going down hell. However, some were OK like the bali stag and red digi.

regds
 
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