Turbovr3six
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i live in phoenix arizona so i have no heater
what happened?!
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woodiecrafts
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What type of power heads do you have? Koralia's can cause stray voltage at times I know for sure. I am not too familair with other brands or types though.
Aquarist007
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sorry it was Ifish that mentioned it and I thought it was you
Aquarist007
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agreed---as he already posted
"nothing has been done to the system except a new ato and a tunze 6105 with a 7096 controler and new moon lights
I also suspect the moon lights---what kind did you add to your system?
Turbovr3six
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just tested and no stray voltage.. any other ideas what went wrong?
njdevilsfan
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run a poly filter and see if it changes color will rule out chemicals in the tank
does your girlfriend put her hands in the tank?
did you the day before or that day?
does your girlfriend put her hands in the tank?
did you the day before or that day?
colombiano81
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I feel your pain
I feel your pain
HI Turbo,
The same thing happened to me yesterday, friday morning. ALL My fish were dead!!! but the coral are fine.
Here's what I did though:
Thursday night, I fed 6 caps of Marine snow to feed all my coral and filter feeders. I turned off my main return pump and only left 2 power heads running all night. I left the return pump off all night, but the power heads in the main display were running to ensure the food would mix in well. I have a 75 gallon uniquarium. I have used this method of turning off my main return and skimmer overnight after feeding and turn it back on 1st thing after waking up. (did this before without a problem) Well, this time it wasn't good! I lost ALL my tangs (7), a mystery wrasse, a green goby, and who know what else. ...
The only survivors were 2 clowns and a damsel (of course!)
After reading your thread, I wonder if my Koralia 4 could have zapped my tank, or if the marine snow was bad, or if the the low water movement caused a drop in oxygen... I don't know. All I know is that I will be mourning for a while....
Best of luck...
Miguel
I feel your pain
HI Turbo,
The same thing happened to me yesterday, friday morning. ALL My fish were dead!!! but the coral are fine.
Here's what I did though:
Thursday night, I fed 6 caps of Marine snow to feed all my coral and filter feeders. I turned off my main return pump and only left 2 power heads running all night. I left the return pump off all night, but the power heads in the main display were running to ensure the food would mix in well. I have a 75 gallon uniquarium. I have used this method of turning off my main return and skimmer overnight after feeding and turn it back on 1st thing after waking up. (did this before without a problem) Well, this time it wasn't good! I lost ALL my tangs (7), a mystery wrasse, a green goby, and who know what else. ...
The only survivors were 2 clowns and a damsel (of course!)
After reading your thread, I wonder if my Koralia 4 could have zapped my tank, or if the marine snow was bad, or if the the low water movement caused a drop in oxygen... I don't know. All I know is that I will be mourning for a while....
Best of luck...
Miguel
Same thing happened to me recently. Had a blue tang that went from great to dead in 24 hours. Then all my other fish (4) died over the next couple of days. I checked for parameters which were all fine, no stray voltage, no visible signs of disease. It didn't kill my corals, in fact they look better than ever. It's been almost 2 weeks now and have done several water changes and about to start loading up on a cuc again.
njdevilsfan
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Re: I feel your pain
are you sating you had 7 tangs in a 75 gal tank?
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are you sating you had 7 tangs in a 75 gal tank?
Aquarist007
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seven tangs would definetly not survive without surface agitation or filtration over night in that size of tank. Feeding marine snow---dead plankton would also contributed to higher levels of ammonia
its usually practised that you turn your pump off for 45 min to feed and then put it back on
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seven tangs would definetly not survive without surface agitation or filtration over night in that size of tank. Feeding marine snow---dead plankton would also contributed to higher levels of ammonia
its usually practised that you turn your pump off for 45 min to feed and then put it back on
colombiano81
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Uuuummm. I don't know if I should answer.... Yes, your honor, I'm guilty. Lesson learned. That's for sure. (Feeling lame now..... )
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Uuuummm. I don't know if I should answer.... Yes, your honor, I'm guilty. Lesson learned. That's for sure. (Feeling lame now..... )
colombiano81
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That makes sense. Didnt realize I was feeding "dead plankton". Although I knew that from other readings.... I really goofed BIG TIME! I should have known better. Total negligence, and way too confident on my part. I guess, I just became too comfortable with my tank that I kept pushing it to the limit by adding more fish, more food, more coral, etc... until it finally fell over the edge.... well, my fish for that matter. Rest assured: LESSON LEARNED!!!
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15374536#post15374536 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by capn_hylinur
seven tangs would definetly not survive without surface agitation or filtration over night in that size of tank. Feeding marine snow---dead plankton would also contributed to higher levels of ammonia
its usually practised that you turn your pump off for 45 min to feed and then put it back on
That makes sense. Didnt realize I was feeding "dead plankton". Although I knew that from other readings.... I really goofed BIG TIME! I should have known better. Total negligence, and way too confident on my part. I guess, I just became too comfortable with my tank that I kept pushing it to the limit by adding more fish, more food, more coral, etc... until it finally fell over the edge.... well, my fish for that matter. Rest assured: LESSON LEARNED!!!
Aquarist007
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We all have learned lessons in this hobby--some more tragic then others--some more expensive then others etc etc.
If you had ignored the advice on here, shown an attitude towards positive suggestions, and gone ahead any ways and stocked your tank like you did--then yes you have our permission to beat yourself up good.
But---that is not the case yet with the recent join date and the few posts you have made.
I wish I had not learned a few expensive and tragic mistakes myself before I joined this site.
Really sorry you had to learn this way--but you did learn--so future success in this hobby is yours for the learning
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We all have learned lessons in this hobby--some more tragic then others--some more expensive then others etc etc.
If you had ignored the advice on here, shown an attitude towards positive suggestions, and gone ahead any ways and stocked your tank like you did--then yes you have our permission to beat yourself up good.
But---that is not the case yet with the recent join date and the few posts you have made.
I wish I had not learned a few expensive and tragic mistakes myself before I joined this site.
Really sorry you had to learn this way--but you did learn--so future success in this hobby is yours for the learning
Shane Hoffman
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Its sounding more like oxygen depletetion or poisioning of some sort.
Although I would still be a bit suspect of a PH crash (which will lead to a tank full of dead fish) due to your ph only being 7.9....and this is after a 40 % water change. Based on my exp I would expect your ph to be higher after chaging that much water.....
So weve ruled out
Electrical Shock: Check
Amonia spike: check
Temp shock: check (maybe I will post a note at the end)
Fairly certain no chemicals or outside contributors: check
OXYGEN: Still a probibility
Salinity: check
PH crash: still a probibility
I think you need someone with more expertise to evaluate this thread......
anyone have any ideas????
Im trying to focus on the recent additions- moon lights-ato-tunze-controller...none of these seem to stick out as a problem source...
Note about temp shock: My neigbor (kind of he lives 3 blocks away) had a 120gallon in wall that the chiller died on. His MH heated the water to 99 degrees minimum...thats as high as his temp monitor read....he suspects the water was that warm for up to 12 hours. All fish were alive. He lowered temp by shutting off lights and putting a fan on water. The next day he got a new chiller. Exactly 7 days later all of his fih died. 11 total. A guy at the LFS told him thats common with a severly over heated tank.....the lfs guy used a word other than temp shock I cant remember what it was......all parameters were fine at time of death...
Although I would still be a bit suspect of a PH crash (which will lead to a tank full of dead fish) due to your ph only being 7.9....and this is after a 40 % water change. Based on my exp I would expect your ph to be higher after chaging that much water.....
So weve ruled out
Electrical Shock: Check
Amonia spike: check
Temp shock: check (maybe I will post a note at the end)
Fairly certain no chemicals or outside contributors: check
OXYGEN: Still a probibility
Salinity: check
PH crash: still a probibility
I think you need someone with more expertise to evaluate this thread......
anyone have any ideas????
Im trying to focus on the recent additions- moon lights-ato-tunze-controller...none of these seem to stick out as a problem source...
Note about temp shock: My neigbor (kind of he lives 3 blocks away) had a 120gallon in wall that the chiller died on. His MH heated the water to 99 degrees minimum...thats as high as his temp monitor read....he suspects the water was that warm for up to 12 hours. All fish were alive. He lowered temp by shutting off lights and putting a fan on water. The next day he got a new chiller. Exactly 7 days later all of his fih died. 11 total. A guy at the LFS told him thats common with a severly over heated tank.....the lfs guy used a word other than temp shock I cant remember what it was......all parameters were fine at time of death...
Turbovr3six
Colored Sticks addict
thanks everyone for the input.... when should i add fish agian? if ever?
Shane Hoffman
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If your certain all parameters you can measure are ok I would do another water change (maybe 30% at most) then run carbon for a week. After that VERY slowly introduce fish. Start with something cheap of course. Maybe a school of chromis's. Also due to your large amount of water changed and what I would imagine as fairly major sandbed disturbances I would watch close for a mini cycle popping up. I would check parameters every other day for the week you wait....if no signs of smonia or nitrites....off to the LFS you go.....
good luck...
good luck...
Aquarist007
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I really don't think it takes a fish scientest here. Seven tangs in a 75 gal and you shut off the filtration for 8 to 10 hours--sure the oxygen will be depleted and the organics increased.
Aquarist007
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excellent advice :thumbsup:
Turbovr3six
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all corals are looking good so far(thank god)... one of my clowns got ate by my elephant ear so i guess not ALL the fish were a TOTAL loss (at least my coral ate) i took a picture and will post it in a little... kinda depressing seeing your loved clown fish being eaten but kinda cool in the same breath
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