What Killed My Sandsifting Star?!

I would guess that Luidia clathrata from the SE US and Astropecten polycanthus from the Pacific are probably the most common species in the hobby. I've also seen L. senegalensis somewhat frequently, as well as a few other species of Luidia I'm not familiar with. I've seen a fair number of A. articulatus (another common SE US species) as well.

Whether or not you can provide them supplemental feeding, again depends on the species and somewhat on the individual star. Most species are very picky about the size, species, and freshness of their food. They prefer small, live or recently dead food. For some reason or another most in the hobby do not seem interested in supplemental food offered to them.

In many of the studies on L. clathrata they're maintained by feeding them fresh meat from Donax, which are the tiny little clams you see burrowing into the sand at the surfline. They need almost 3 grams of the meat (~ 25 medium sized clams) per week for maintenance- more for growth. Trying to shuck 25 little 1/2 inch coquinas a week doesn't sound like my idea of fun. I imagine it was a job for a grad student. :lol:

Aside from the issue of feeding them though, if a hobbyist intends to run a functional DSB, having one of these animals is working against them.
 
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Ok, I've got pics of my star. If this is the star people are referring to when they say "sand sifting star" I would like to know. I might have something different than the common sand sifter.
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Ganmanee, M., et al. (2003). Feeding habits of asteroids, Luidia quinaria and Astropecten scoparius, in Ise Bay, Central Japan. Fish. Sci. 69: 1121-1134.

"As reviewed by Jangoux, studies on the feeding biology of primitive asteroids such as Luidia and Astropecten species have often been done during the last three decades because it is easy to examine their stomach contents due to their intraoral feeding. Both the Luidia and Astropecten species are typically carnivores/ predators, but the former prefers to ingest large epifaunal benthos such as echinoderms while the latter prefers to ingest infaunal benthos such as small gastropods and bivalves."

The diet of Luidia was 60% mini brittle stars, 12% gastropods, 12% crustaceans, and the rest being made up of various worms, fish bits, pieces of other sand sifting stars, and unidentifiable junk."

Based on that info I would assume that my star could be properly sustained on a suppliment of meaty foods which I have been providing. True, it seems that it would devour small organisms in the sand bed but if feed food directly I see no reason why someone would not be able to keep it in a home aquarium. What would be the problem with the star consumming small creatures in the sand bed anyway?
 
Most of these stars usually don't eat the food even when it's provided to them though. Yours is an exception.

If your sandbed is just for aesthetics, there's no issue with the stars consuming the infauna. If you're using it for filtration as with a DSB it's a big issue because those are the animals that make the system function. Without them, waste accumulates rather than getting broken down and processed.
 
I guess mine is an odd ball then. Well that sure explains a lot, including the information I got from the marine biologist and my lfs owner. Now I see where they were comming from! Thanks a lot green bean!
aquariumkeeper1, Did you ever try feeding your starfish? What did it look like?
 
There is so much info here I'm overwelmed. I'm totally new to salt water and I'm sorta learning as I go. I was linked to this thread from another one I started.
So, I just did a water test today and everything tested great. It's a newly established tank and I may have put some things in it prematurally, but as of now all is alive and well! Creatures were all put in the tank last weekend.
100 gallon tank
120 pounds of live sand
130 pounds of live rock
2 tube anemones
1 leather coral
2 small Xenia corals
2 peppermint shrimp
3 small chromis
10 snails
10 hermit crabs
And the creatures in question- 2 "sand sifter" sea stars.

Now my stars are pretty small, and they look nothing like the ones pictured before. I just don't know what to do...? Keep them? Take them back? I definitely don't want anything in my tank that is potentially bad for it. One of the lfs' said it was a good addition and I believed them because I'm new, naive, and wanted to. So... Now what? It hasn't bothered anything yet, they just burrow, surface, burrow again...
 
Ahhh. Those are the ones I've seen at lfs that have their arms missing. I think that star is what most people mean when they say sand sifting star. Yeah, I'd definately go with greenbean's suggestion.
 
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