What one....picaso orrrrr fancy white?

[maddmaxx]

im looking to purchase a pair of clowns for my 220g system...

im going to be getting a snow onyx but not sure what to pair it with. im looking at either a picaso ((not a super picaso, unless your paying for it)), or a fancy white. im not familiar with either of them. never seen either in person. and internet only gives you so much.

out of the picaso and the fancy white, what will have better markings? I don't want to go with a snowflake cuz ill be getting a snow onyx. so this leaves me to the picasos and fancy whites..

any help would be greatly appreciated...

 

[tippmannsniper]

I vote for the Picasso. Nice choices by the way - I'm drooling lol

 

[maddmaxx]

I vote for the Picasso. Nice choices by the way - I'm drooling lol

lol thanx... ive always strayed away from the normal perfect 3 stripe nemo clowns. ive always had mated pairs of misbarred clowns that I got from a friend that's a private breeder. so now I wanna go with something different again. I figured last time I went with clowns that had less stripe pattern, now I want a more exaggerated stripe pattern lol... korny I know but that's my style...

 

[maddmaxx]

bump... anybody else?

 

[kismetsh]

My favorite fancy clown right now is the phantom, but that's an ocellaris.

Of the two you are considering I vote picasso!

 

[maddmaxx]

all the ones I stated are ocellaris clowns.. I personally like them more then percs. another one for Picasso huh...thank u...

 

[ct_vol]

Voting Fancy White! Lol I've never been the biggest fan of Picasso's though. I think SA has come out with a Fancy Picasso, though I haven't seen one yet. I'm far overwhelmed by the various hybrids.

 

[kismetsh]

all the ones I stated are ocellaris clowns.. I personally like them more then percs.

No they aren't.

Snow onyx are hybrids, perc/ocellaris crosses. http://www.bluezooaquatics.com/productDetail.asp?did=1&pid=9715&cid=361

Picassos are percs. http://www.orafarm.com/products/fish/clowns/

By "fancy white" I'm not sure what you are referring to. Platinums are percs. Wyoming Whites are ocellaris. There are other "whites" also.

http://www.sbaquariums.com/Clownfish_c18.htm

Good luck with whatever you choose, they will be lookers for sure!

 

[cet98]

No they aren't.

Snow onyx are hybrids, perc/ocellaris crosses. http://www.bluezooaquatics.com/productDetail.asp?did=1&pid=9715&cid=361

Picassos are percs. http://www.orafarm.com/products/fish/clowns/

By "fancy white" I'm not sure what you are referring to. Platinums are percs. Wyoming Whites are ocellaris. There are other "whites" also.

http://www.sbaquariums.com/Clownfish_c18.htm

Good luck with whatever you choose, they will be lookers for sure!

+1 :thumbsup:

 

[maddmaxx]

well to put ur pantys in a bunch. this is exactly why I said they are all ocellaris...directly from this site...reef 2 go

snow onyx http://www.reefs2go.com/product/F-CLOWN-SNOWONYX/Live-Saltwater-Fish-Ocellaris-Clownfish.html
COMMON NAME: Snow Onyx Ocellaris Clown Fish
SCIENTIFIC NAME: Amphiprion ocellaris

Picasso http://www.reefs2go.com/product/F-C...wn-Fish-Amphiprion-ocellaris---Saltwater.html
COMMON NAME: Picasso Ocellaris Clown Fish
SCIENTIFIC NAME: Amphiprion ocellaris

FANCY WHITE http://www.reefs2go.com/product/F-CLOWN-FANCYWHITE/Live-Saltwater-Fish-Ocellaris-Clownfish.html
COMMON NAME: Fancy White Ocellaris Clown Fish
SCIENTIFIC NAME: Amphiprion ocellaris


I went directly off their website. so your saying their wrong?

 

[maddmaxx]

i will admit tho kitmetsh that last link you sent, i like the davinci clown there...

 

[kismetsh]

well to put ur pantys in a bunch. this is exactly why I said they are all ocellaris...directly from this site...reef 2 go

snow onyx http://www.reefs2go.com/product/F-CLOWN-SNOWONYX/Live-Saltwater-Fish-Ocellaris-Clownfish.html
COMMON NAME: Snow Onyx Ocellaris Clown Fish
SCIENTIFIC NAME: Amphiprion ocellaris

Picasso http://www.reefs2go.com/product/F-C...wn-Fish-Amphiprion-ocellaris---Saltwater.html
COMMON NAME: Picasso Ocellaris Clown Fish
SCIENTIFIC NAME: Amphiprion ocellaris

FANCY WHITE http://www.reefs2go.com/product/F-CLOWN-FANCYWHITE/Live-Saltwater-Fish-Ocellaris-Clownfish.html
COMMON NAME: Fancy White Ocellaris Clown Fish
SCIENTIFIC NAME: Amphiprion ocellaris


I went directly off their website. so your saying their wrong?

In a nutshell, yes.

ORA farms is one of the leading suppliers/developers of designer clownfish. http://www.orafarm.com/products/fish/clowns/premium-picasso/

"ORA Picassos are a highly sought after variant of the Percula Clownfish. The Picasso variant occurs naturally in the Solomon Islands and Papua New Guinea however it is exceptionally rare. ORA’s strain of Picassos originated in 2004 from a single wild male from the Solomon Islands, which we paired with a typical Onyx female. In subsequent years we have added additional wild collected Picassos into our breeding program. Most Picasso clowns in the industry can be traced back to ORA’s breeding program."

Sustainable Aquatics is another large player in the breeding of designer clowns: http://www.sustainableaquatics.com/products/sustainable-aquatics-hatcheries/clownfish/designer-clowns/

Note the species designation of Picasso (percula) and Snow Onyx (ocellaris x percula).

Yet another prominent breeder/supplier is Sea and Reef (love their phantoms!): http://www.seaandreef.com/products/fish-species/sea-reef-clownfish

Note their species designation for Picasso (percula).

If you would prefer to believe your source over the suppliers, it doesn't put my panties in a bunch. But it also doesn't change the facts.

BTW I like the DaVinci too!

 

[maddmaxx]

lmao my bad buddy if the panties comment rubbed ya wrong, it was totally in a joking way. reading over computer cant show the joking gesture...i know ORA is an extremely established company in the hobby. and in no way doubt your presentation here. to be honest im not really a fan of pairing a perc and a occi, that's just my OCD..... that davinci is an occi and the Picasso would be a perc booooooooooo

any suggestions on occi pair? or am i really overthinking this none occi perc pairing?

 

[BIG_RED91791]

have you tried alphacorals.com?

 

[maddmaxx]

have you tried alphacorals.com?

No, ill check it out now.. thanx for the site

 

[kismetsh]

No problem, the internet can make communication difficult!

I prefer ocellaris too, I think most of it is I like the darker iris. It makes them look "friendlier" I think.

As far as pairs, I personally like contrasting fish, ie one with a lot of black paired with a lot of white. For example, a DaVinci and a phantom. A black ice looks amazing with anything. It's hard to go wrong with clowns!

 

[maddmaxx]

No problem, the internet can make communication difficult!

I prefer ocellaris too, I think most of it is I like the darker iris. It makes them look "friendlier" I think.

As far as pairs, I personally like contrasting fish, ie one with a lot of black paired with a lot of white. For example, a DaVinci and a phantom. A black ice looks amazing with anything. It's hard to go wrong with clowns!

occis def look friendlier...see i liked the onyx cause they still have orange in their color when they mature, but still have the black to them.... i just keep looking at all the options haha

 

[maddmaxx]

kismetsh...ill tell ya if silverbow aquariums had free shipping, i would def order from them, but $50 ship charge regardless of how much you purchase. which sucks @$$...

 

[kismetsh]

kismetsh...ill tell ya if silverbow aquariums had free shipping, i would def order from them, but $50 ship charge regardless of how much you purchase. which sucks @$$...

They run really good sales sometimes. A couple of weeks ago the phantoms were half price so even with shipping it wasn't too bad. Kind of wish I had pulled the trigger on one.

 

[maddmaxx]

lol isn't that always the case... there prices are great, but i would imagine theyre that low cause we pay shipping. so i mite sit and wait for a sale?...