What "poison" can I use to kill Palythoas??

[GrouperGenius]

I know it sounds bad, but I have some palythoas that I got from somewhere and it is taking over everything. It is covering over other corals in the tank as well as any open rockwork. I have to be able to do this in tank as it is on very large rocks with alot of other corals on them.

So far I have tried injecting them using a diabetic hypodermic. Poisons tried so far are: kalkwasser, lime juice, ESV alkalinity, and pure bleach. These things seem indestructable.

Here is a 3 month old pic of the palys, the green ones. You can see how they are coving over the Tubbs and Purple Deaths. Today you can't see anything but the palys and they have spread to the starboard.

 

[Gamepro_inc]

Wow pure bleach, Those things are a tank...How did the rest of your tank handel that? I have used boiling water in a syringe before with some success, have to go slow though because of temp increase. and do it 2x a day for 3 days that seems to be the trick. Also have you tried injecting or dipping them in extremely cold FRESH water? a friend of mine does that, I like boiling better but he says cold is better.

 

[MUCHO REEF]

I know it sounds bad, but I have some palythoas that I got from somewhere and it is taking over everything. It is covering over other corals in the tank as well as any open rockwork. I have to be able to do this in tank as it is on very large rocks with alot of other corals on them.

So far I have tried injecting them using a diabetic hypodermic. Poisons tried so far are: kalkwasser, lime juice, ESV alkalinity, and pure bleach. These things seem indestructable.

Here is a 3 month old pic of the palys, the green ones. You can see how they are coving over the Tubbs and Purple Deaths. Today you can't see anything but the palys and they have spread to the starboard.

QUOTE]


I'm not a hot head by any means, but this does sound bad. I just don't understand why you would want to kill a perfectly happy and healthy colony which is only doing what it is suppose to do and what we all strive to have them do,....grow. I'm sorry my friend but placing chlorine bleach in your tank is a major mistake under any circumstances. I'm surprise to didn't crash your entire system.

The rock is clearly placed up front and not too big to remove. I suggest removing the rock to a safe place, maybe a concrete slab floor. Wear google and reef safe gloves. With a hammer and chissle, create an even set of fracture lines along the rock, then with a swift hit, split the rock and donate the proto palys to a local reefer or use for store credit.

This is not a situation which warrants the killing of healthy polyps in my opinion. Others might disagree, but I wouldn't recommend killing them, and I kindly ask that you fracture the rock instead, with all due respect my friend.


Mucho Reef

 

[Dave VG]

I'm not a hot head by any means, but this does sound bad. I just don't understand why you would want to kill a perfectly happy and healthy colony which is only doing what we all strive to have them do,....grow. I'm sorry my friend but placing chlorine bleach in your tank is a major mistake under any circumstances. I'm surprise to didn't crash your entire system.

The rock is clearly placed up front and not too big to remove. I suggest removing the rock to a safe place, maybe a concrete slab floor. Wear google and reef safe gloves. With a hammer and chissle, create an even set of fracture lines along the rock, then with a swift hit, split the rock and donate the proto palys to a local reefer or use for store credit.

This is not a situation which warrants the killing of healthy polyps in my opinion. Others might disagree, but I wouldn't recommend killing them, and I kindly ask that you fracture the rock instead, with all due respect my friend.


Mucho Reef

X2

Well said Mucho I need not add to that

 

[GrouperGenius]

I'm not a hot head by any means, but this does sound bad. I just don't understand why you would want to kill a perfectly happy and healthy colony which is only doing what it is suppose to do and what we all strive to have them do,....grow. I'm sorry my friend but placing chlorine bleach in your tank is a major mistake under any circumstances. I'm surprise to didn't crash your entire system.

The rock is clearly placed up front and not too big to remove. I suggest removing the rock to a safe place, maybe a concrete slab floor. Wear google and reef safe gloves. With a hammer and chissle, create an even set of fracture lines along the rock, then with a swift hit, split the rock and donate the proto palys to a local reefer or use for store credit.

This is not a situation which warrants the killing of healthy polyps in my opinion. Others might disagree, but I wouldn't recommend killing them, and I kindly ask that you fracture the rock instead, with all due respect my friend.


Mucho Reef

Thanks for the input. I'll take some recent FTS pics tonight. You see...it's not just that rock. It's on every rock in the tank now. And covering alot of high end zoas. I suppose if you got hair algae in your tank you would feed it?

 

[GrouperGenius]

A few pics to show what I'm talking about. I'm going to put everything in a 150 Rubbermaid I have and cut all the good stuff I want to keep and get rid of the rest of the rock. I could never give these pest palys to anyone. There is no way I would propagate this weed into anyones system.

 

[GrouperGenius]

growth from 3 months of my 1st post pic

 

[MUCHO REEF]

With all due respect, and I hope you take this the right way as I mean no disrespect to you at all.

To you, this is a weed. It's not a weed to me. It's a proto paly whch may not be as attractive or appealing to you or many others because it doesn't have cute name, or it isn't fetching a high price tag, or it isn't as colorful as your other polyps. If this were a stunning blue zoa or paly, you wouldn't call it a weed nor would you be so quick to get rid of it. Instead of dreading trying to get rid of it, do you realize the wealth of knowldege you have to share?

I have waited and waited, but you haven't shared what it is that you are doing to achieve such great growth. Sir, you must be doing something right. I see you have a serious profileration of purple/pink coralline algae gowth all over your tank. Do you know some people can't get it to grow as it is greatly desired by most serious reefers. Again, you must certainly be doing something right, so why haven't you shared what it is?

I see all of your other polps in your tank and doing well and growing like gang-busters for you. You must certainly be doing something right, but again, you haven't shared that.

I see LPS, SPS and soft corals cohabitating and all doing very well in you tank. But you haven't shared with us anything about what you are doing achieve the right balance in your system to achieve this. My friend, you are sitting on a wealth of helpful knowledge to a lot of reefers both you and old, and your focus is killing or getting rid of something that is only doing what it is suppose to do...grow. So share with us all th good you have to offer.


So share with us all of your parameters including Salinity?

Type of make up water and salt?

Water change schedule?

Lighting kind, type, k value, ballast etc?

How old is your syetm?

Do you feed, if so, what and how often?



Reefing is not about killing, it's about growing, learning, sharing and achievements. If you have to remove your rocks and cut away all of these polyps, then I would highly recomend it. But share with us the good news you have to share and your success in getting them to grow along with all the beutiful coralline algae an a welath of happy and healthy livestock my friend.

Thanks for listening as I mean well, I really do and no hard felings at all.

Mucho Reef

 

[GrouperGenius]

With all due respect, and I hope you take this the right way as I mean no disrespect to you at all.

To you, this is a weed. It's not a weed to me. It's a proto paly whch may not be as attractive or appealing to you or many others because it doesn't have cute name, or it isn't fetching a high price tag, or it isn't as colorful as your other polyps. If this were a stunning blue zoa or paly, you wouldn't call it a weed nor would you be so quick to get rid of it. Instead of dreading trying to get rid of it, do you realize the wealth of knowldege you have to share?

I have waited and waited, but you haven't shared what it is that you are doing to achieve such great growth. Sir, you must be doing something right. I see you have a serious profileration of purple/pink coralline algae gowth all over your tank. Do you know some people can't get it to grow as it is greatly desired by most serious reefers. Again, you must certainly be doing something right, so why haven't you shared what it is?

I see all of your other polps in your tank and doing well and growing like gang-busters for you. You must certainly be doing something right, but again, you haven't shared that.

I see LPS, SPS and soft corals cohabitating and all doing very well in you tank. But you haven't shared with us anything about what you are doing achieve the right balance in your system to achieve this. My friend, you are sitting on a wealth of helpful knowledge to a lot of reefers both you and old, and your focus is killing or getting rid of something that is only doing what it is suppose to do...grow. So share with us all th good you have to offer.


So share with us all of your parameters including Salinity?

Type of make up water and salt?

Water change schedule?

Lighting kind, type, k value, ballast etc?

How old is your syetm?

Do you feed, if so, what and how often?



Reefing is not about killing, it's about growing, learning, sharing and achievements. If you have to remove your rocks and cut away all of these polyps, then I would highly recomend it. But share with us the good news you have to share and your success in getting them to grow along with all the beutiful coralline algae an a welath of happy and healthy livestock my friend.

Thanks for listening as I mean well, I really do and no hard felings at all.

Mucho Reef

Well, it starts with 35 years of keeping salt water critters.

salinity---1.024-1.025
alkalinity---8-9Dkh
calcium---420-440
magnesium---don't check

Lighting is in my sig.
Water change??? once every 6 months with TM pro reef
this tank is the culmination of 5 other systems I had for the past 3 years.
I feed Rod's original once a day.

My dog's name is McKenzie.....

Mucho, if you would seriously want some of these palys, I will ship about 100 polyps to you free of charge. I'll even pay shipping.

Mark

 

[MUCHO REEF]

Thanks, so to what do you attribute your rapid growth of these polyps to?

Just curious why you only do a WC every 6 months? Not complaining, just asking.

My dog's name is Kato.

And yes, I'll take them all if you want to get rid of them. But I can do you one better. Do as I have always done, try and give back and help someone else. See the links below.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1308623&highlight=mucho

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1402134&highlight=mucho



There is a newbie or a serious reefer out there who isn't concerned with names or profits who would love to have them. Go to the selling forum and sell them for $ 1, as you have to charge something as it is a selling forum, or you can trade them. The feeling you will get from helping someone else out with a random act of kindness can't be measured.

Thanks for the reply and being so kind.

Mucho

 

[vangogh121]

Grouper, They are better know as Texas trash and have consumed your tank. They are evil and reproduce faster that aptasia. I can't give away colonies of the stuff anymore. If you get a solution, please let me know, they are starting to strangle some SPS colonies I have.

 

[meatball87]

I agree with mucho u shouldn't kill them

 

[therman]

Google "electrocuting majanos". There is a thread about a DIY device in another subforum here that might work.

I had them too, luckily they were in a prop system that I was able to throw away/chip/butane torch all of the parts of the rock they were on.

There is no functional difference between a pest Palythoa, majanos, Aiptasia, Xenia, etc. They are all cnidarians that can get totally out of control in a reef tank and annihilate the biodiversity that we enjoy cultivating. Passing these palys on to an unsuspecting newbie is like selling Aiptasia rocks to people who don't know any better, and I couldn't do it in good conscience.

 

[RonMidtownStomp]

Discussion of whether it's right or wrong aside, have you tried kalk paste on the face of the polyp? I've even managed to make shrooms go away using that method.