angels mcgee
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juvenile french angel, they get pretty big and lose their yellow stripes as they mature
What rare angel is the least owned?
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angels mcgee
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Charles, what else did Michael have in that impressive tank?
fishsoldseprtly
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7765590#post7765590 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jakaufman
i dont think it is... or is it even younger than this picture here?
here is a juvie french:
the one i posted before has shorter fins and some blue on its underside
looks more like a sub-adult french
fishsoldseprtly
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I would say that the Pepps have to be top 3 rarest. None has ever been known to exist in captivity in the US and are one of the most hardest to keep in captivity. I cannot speak for other countries like the UK or Japan because RARE angels and other RARE specimens are a lot easier to come by oppose to the US market.
The Hotumatuas I have actually seen and I have seen them at a LFS in my area as well as some of the rarest angels available. Great fish to have and not too pricey but not very hardy in captivity as well and looses the nice colors once it is adult.
The last time I have seen the Clarions was when I went to visit a member in the bay who had 3 of them as well as 3-4 GemTangs and the a RARE hog (looks like a large pepperming hog)
I would definitely agree that the KINGII is one of the rarest as well as the CLips but there is one angel that is pretty rare and it comes from the Queensland Coast and The Great Barrier Reef and thats the personifer/conspics Hybrid. I have called on the fish for a price a few years ago and was given the price of $3K which is not bad for such a rare piece.
The Hotumatuas I have actually seen and I have seen them at a LFS in my area as well as some of the rarest angels available. Great fish to have and not too pricey but not very hardy in captivity as well and looses the nice colors once it is adult.
The last time I have seen the Clarions was when I went to visit a member in the bay who had 3 of them as well as 3-4 GemTangs and the a RARE hog (looks like a large pepperming hog)
I would definitely agree that the KINGII is one of the rarest as well as the CLips but there is one angel that is pretty rare and it comes from the Queensland Coast and The Great Barrier Reef and thats the personifer/conspics Hybrid. I have called on the fish for a price a few years ago and was given the price of $3K which is not bad for such a rare piece.
copps
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Elaborating on this, the closest relative to a French is P. arcuatus... known as the gray or black angel... adults are much more drab than adult French angels, but when young they are both vibrant... Here is a small P. arcuatus... the easy way to tell them apart is the clear square margin on the tail of the grey, as opposed to the rounded yellow margin on the tail of the French...
Just like queen and blues these two hybridize... Martin Moe produced grey/french hybrids by fertilizing grey eggs with french males, as a result of female french angels being harder to find... Of all produced, this was the whackiest abnormality... note the combination of grey/french traits...
On a side note that was just mentioned earlier... here's an image of a meredithii/conspic hybrid...
Vili_Shark
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Fishsoldeptrtly,
Where did ya see hotumatuas, and what is not pricey?
Do you know of anybody selling them now? Im looking for them for quite some time.
Where did ya see hotumatuas, and what is not pricey?
Do you know of anybody selling them now? Im looking for them for quite some time.
fishsoldseprtly
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the pic of the merdithi/conspics I have and was shown from the exporter who exports them, has them at a nicer more brighter orange colors. the tail is more orange and so is the head to the dorsal but has the blue around the eyes like the conspics and the body goes from orangeto a bluish hue.
fishsoldseprtly
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the price on the hotumatua when I inquired was $750, its a nice fish but would not take the chance on the fish due to it being not hardy at all. I think the Multi-Color is a nicer looking fish than the Hotumatua and a lot cheaper. I live out here in Sacramento Ca. but I know the owner of a LFS and he basically gets the rarest fish in town.
fishsoldseprtly
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7766278#post7766278 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by copps
fishsold... that image is of a little guy, and admittedly is not the best... If I was selling them, I'd get a better image too!
totally understand copps. LOL.. ok buddy take care
fishsoldseprtly
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I can post a pic once I an get a hold of a bette pic. the one I have is of one back in 2003 and is on photopaper. I have since relocated and got a new comp since then and dont have the resources or pics I used to have in my old comp.
The pic of the hybrid looks more like a clarion but without the bars and it gets darker w/ bluish hue after the head of the angel and orange tail. I emailed the exporter of the fish for a pic so once I get one then I can try to post of a more rescent pic. The one posted looks nothing like it and looks more like a reg juv conspics. If I had a calling card I would call him but I dont.. LOL
The pic of the hybrid looks more like a clarion but without the bars and it gets darker w/ bluish hue after the head of the angel and orange tail. I emailed the exporter of the fish for a pic so once I get one then I can try to post of a more rescent pic. The one posted looks nothing like it and looks more like a reg juv conspics. If I had a calling card I would call him but I dont.. LOL
Vili_Shark
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fishsoldseprtly,
I didnt look for them in Sacramento (is that where Mike Bibby is?? ), but I was looking for them basicly all over the world, Hong Kong didnt get a single specimen last winter and they usualy come in December-January.
I didnt hear anything from LA 104th st either.
Your guy have them for sale???
:eek1:
I didnt look for them in Sacramento (is that where Mike Bibby is??
), but I was looking for them basicly all over the world, Hong Kong didnt get a single specimen last winter and they usualy come in December-January.I didnt hear anything from LA 104th st either.
Your guy have them for sale???
:eek1:
fishsoldseprtly
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well the LFS here can basically get any request on your list. thanks
How can you be so sure?? :rolleye1:
What you really meant to say was that you do not know if one has ever been known to exist in captivity in the US.
Of course they have.
They have also been kept successfully in Japan and I was told of a hobbyist there who even had a pair spawning in his tank several years ago.
Aloha!
Charles
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coralite
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This is a fantastic image of a resplendens angel which was taken by Peter Schmiedel at adsencion island. This image was the cover photo for the Journal of Heredity paper by Brian Bowen on the evolution of the blue and gold pigmy angel complex which includes acanthops, argi, resplendens, aurantonota and fisheri. I hope you guys like your new wall paper
fishsoldseprtly
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well from what I have read on the pepps, it is said that there was none that was kept in captivity with any luck in the US..
I never once mentioned anything about Japan or other countries not having any that exist or any other countries having any luck with them in captivity.. I have also heard that there was a pair in Japan that was said to be in captivity.
mahalo!
Warren
>I have also heard that there was a pair in Japan that was said to be in captivity.
Yes, one of the reef keepers in Japan has been successfully keeping a couple of adult specimens of Peppermint but another friend told me that they were dead some two years ago. He kept them in a very calm and dim-lighting reef for at least four years.
Yes, one of the reef keepers in Japan has been successfully keeping a couple of adult specimens of Peppermint but another friend told me that they were dead some two years ago. He kept them in a very calm and dim-lighting reef for at least four years.
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