What Should I know about Ozone?
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TacoKing
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It lived up to the expectations big time... But the ROI just wasn't there. The two biggest issues were daily maintiance and costs. With a system as large as mine the costs were just too much. Add that with a required 15 minute, twice a day routine... It just built up. As far as the corals go, I had never seen growth as fast as with Zeovit, not to mention polyp extension and coloration. My water was dramatically clearer and I had no nussance algaes.
I'm going to stabalize my system a bit with carbon, rowaphos and maybe some ozone then slowly work back to one of the bacteria systems... either probideo, micro fauna or the new elos. My only concern with these systems is the lack of the zeolith. Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought the zeolith aspect provided a lot of benifitial things, from porus rocks for bacteria growth to ammonia absorbtion... Ehh, we'll see what happens in the next month or two when I decide on what to do.
I'm going to stabalize my system a bit with carbon, rowaphos and maybe some ozone then slowly work back to one of the bacteria systems... either probideo, micro fauna or the new elos. My only concern with these systems is the lack of the zeolith. Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought the zeolith aspect provided a lot of benifitial things, from porus rocks for bacteria growth to ammonia absorbtion... Ehh, we'll see what happens in the next month or two when I decide on what to do.
radone
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IMHO UV is a waste of money in this hobby, If you suspect a fish even having symptoms of Ich don't get it it's that simple.
I don't want to flame anyone here either, that is not my intent.
Simple put UV are excellent at killing free floating algae, yes that means any phytoplankton you could grow in our systems. as for bacterial infections simple put NO parasitic some but not all. UV's are not the answer guys. Yourselection when it comes to picking is the answer.
There's lots to read about UV and it's affects, but It comes down to the same principle as our skimmers (CONTACT TIME)
you can't expect a 25w UV to treat a 1000 gallon tank.
Just my $.02 BTW
If your serious about a UV for that size tank buy an Emperor Smart HO in about a 130w model granted it will cost but the the little ones don't even hold a candle to them
BTW the 130w model is what is running my 8,000 gallon KOI pond
Good Luck and I have to agree with everyone here about Ozone if your going to use it BE Careful
Good Luck
I don't want to flame anyone here either, that is not my intent.
Simple put UV are excellent at killing free floating algae, yes that means any phytoplankton you could grow in our systems. as for bacterial infections simple put NO parasitic some but not all. UV's are not the answer guys. Yourselection when it comes to picking is the answer.
There's lots to read about UV and it's affects, but It comes down to the same principle as our skimmers (CONTACT TIME)
you can't expect a 25w UV to treat a 1000 gallon tank.
Just my $.02 BTW
If your serious about a UV for that size tank buy an Emperor Smart HO in about a 130w model granted it will cost but the the little ones don't even hold a candle to them
BTW the 130w model is what is running my 8,000 gallon KOI pond
Good Luck and I have to agree with everyone here about Ozone if your going to use it BE Careful
Good Luck
TOURKID
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if you want to get rid of it for good. qt all fish. and leave your tank fallow for at least 6 weeks. you'll be glad you did it eventually. I would SERIOUSLY recommend cupramine with saliifert copper test kit if your going to use copper. Its really hard to find a kit and copper that work together. these do work great together.
I have also had great success with coppersafe from mardell but cant find a test kit that works with it.
I have some great links and a really good fish doc that runs a sick fish site I can point you too. She will overwhelm you with good info on treating ick.
if you do hyposalinity, you can drop it down to 1.010 (1.009 if you want to push it) over a 3 day span, but when you bring it back up to reg salinity you have to do it REALLY slow, over a week n 1/2 or so.
dont forget no biological filters work with copper so you have to do many water changes and replace the copper....
I have also had great success with coppersafe from mardell but cant find a test kit that works with it.
I have some great links and a really good fish doc that runs a sick fish site I can point you too. She will overwhelm you with good info on treating ick.
if you do hyposalinity, you can drop it down to 1.010 (1.009 if you want to push it) over a 3 day span, but when you bring it back up to reg salinity you have to do it REALLY slow, over a week n 1/2 or so.
dont forget no biological filters work with copper so you have to do many water changes and replace the copper....
Yeah I did the hypo treatment before and went to 1.009 and didnt loose any fish; however, it also didn't kill all the ich. I left it at 1.009 for over 3 weeks and the came back over about 2 weeks.
I also ran a second system with copper and it was easier than the hypo I think.
I have 2 20g tanks with hang on back filters and lights and heaters. I plan on running copper in both systems this time. I doubt that 2 20g systems will be even close to enough for my fish load.
I also have a 40g long that I can set up but havent.
We will see what happens I guess. My main concearn is that the gold rim tang will pretty much always have ich. If this is going to be the case I may just take him out and replace him.
I also ran a second system with copper and it was easier than the hypo I think.
I have 2 20g tanks with hang on back filters and lights and heaters. I plan on running copper in both systems this time. I doubt that 2 20g systems will be even close to enough for my fish load.
I also have a 40g long that I can set up but havent.
We will see what happens I guess. My main concearn is that the gold rim tang will pretty much always have ich. If this is going to be the case I may just take him out and replace him.
TOURKID
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hypo should be 6 weeks im pretty sure, but id have to double check, dont take my word on it 
If u need any help, just holler.
heres a good link.
http://www.reefland.com/forum/marin...ment/18915-copper-treatment-use-problems.html
If u need any help, just holler.
heres a good link.
http://www.reefland.com/forum/marin...ment/18915-copper-treatment-use-problems.html
um yeah the fish count is 39. I don't think it is possible for me to qt all of them. I have at most 1 40g 2 20g and 3 15g tanks. catching everyone will be next to impossible. Oh and since the two systems are now tied I have about 6 fish in the 125 as well. I think I will catch all infested fish and qt them 1st and see if anyone else gets any during that time.
seandanekind
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Is this a fish only system?
I have quite a few corals and about 900-1000lbs of live rock and maybe 300lbs of live sand so obviously I can't copper the system. I do have some QT tanks that I have setup to run and i will be starting with the most infected fish as I catch them.
I plan on just getting out what I can see spots on and putting those in QT for now. I will probably wait about 2 weeks or so for the next ich cycle and see if anything else has spots.
If so I will catch everything and QT it all. I could possible remove my seaclear system (5 more tanks) my stackable tank (the one I was told I couldn't sell on RC which is 3 more tanks) and my 2 20g QT's and my extra 40g if I really need to. I would hate to have to do all that but better than loosing what I have. That should give me roughly 265gallons of QT tanks and 2 40 longs for the tangs.
I plan on just getting out what I can see spots on and putting those in QT for now. I will probably wait about 2 weeks or so for the next ich cycle and see if anything else has spots.
If so I will catch everything and QT it all. I could possible remove my seaclear system (5 more tanks) my stackable tank (the one I was told I couldn't sell on RC which is 3 more tanks) and my 2 20g QT's and my extra 40g if I really need to. I would hate to have to do all that but better than loosing what I have. That should give me roughly 265gallons of QT tanks and 2 40 longs for the tangs.
