What size tanks do you keep your clown couples in

[MimicTang]

Joyce is saying 55 for the big and 20 for the small who's big and who's small??

Maroon & clarkii's big everyone else small?

Do you keep your WSG, GSM, and clarkii's in 55s?

Starting to lay the plan out and hoping it's under 1000gals =/

 

[TomRep]

i have a spawning pair of mgs's in a 20. they are not full grown yet though. female: 3-3.5" male: 2"

 

[jake levi]

I am devoting a 75 to my Tomatoes, they'll share with several Pseudochromis, and a number of soft corals.

55s are to me the logical tank for maroons and clarkis, I have seen some pretty big of both. A very successful breeder in the Chicago area used 20h's for the smaller clowns.

 

[JamisonSmith]

I have my pair of GSMs in a 20L and they seem to be content as they are quite regular spawners (at least they were until I moved them from one system to another and they have temporarily stopped). My Ocellaris also are in 20Ls. The only thing that I have in larger tanks (29gal) are a couple of Bangaii pairs.

Jamison

 

[Fishboy42]

I've used as small as 10g for spawning GSM, WSM, and clarkii pairs, and I know of a breeder near Chicago who uses 7g for everything I prefer larger tanks myself, but the fish don't seem to mind a cramped space as long as the water quality is high.

 

[ediaz]

if you have a lot of space/money, the bigger the better, they all will spawn in as little as 40 gal. I have maroons, occ and tomatos in that size,

If you have a lot of volume/water in the system you can get away with 10 gal.

Ed

 

[aomont]

Hi Ediaz, any rule to what "a lot of water" in the system is ? I´ve read Hoff´s book and sure have to read one more time... one more... one more... Any easier way ?
Anderson.

 

[ediaz]

The people I know with small tanks have about 200+ gal total. So even when the tank is small the large volume adds for stability etc. In a small stand alone I don't think is possible , but I can be proved wrong.

Big tanks also help with the pairing process in wich sometimes the mate will need space to escape.


You don't know nothing but suspect a lot?;-)

Ed

 

[aomont]

Thank you Ediaz !

Não sou tão criativo assim , a frase é de um poeta brasileiro ! Mas ela me descreve bem hoje

Anderson.

 

[MrMexReefer]

hey fishboy.... about this breeder in Chicago... what does he breed? I want some nice clowns at a good price!!

 

[Fishboy42]

I don't believe he sells directly, and I don't want to point him out publicly---he does read these forums though, and others here know the breeder I'm speaking of. If you'd like to purchase some of his fish, just check any Chicago LFS (I did, his fish are everywhere ).

edit: actually, here's an article for more information (some a little outdated, but I hope he doesn't mind me sharing it!): http://216.168.47.67/cis-fishnet/seascope/00SS1703.htm

Keeping small stand-alone tanks can be done, it just requires a lot of careful work. I have a few pairs spawning in stand-alone 20H tanks, but they require more maintenance (and will soon be moved to make my life easier). I believe Atticus also had several stand-alone broodstock tanks, but he didn't recommend the practice to others either

 

[Dman]

Maroons, Fires and Tomatoes in 30's
Percs, O's and B&W O's in 10's and 15's
Mind you none of my tanks are stand alone, except for the 'horses.

 

[jake levi]

Re: Joe the Chicago breeder, he doesnt participate much on these as he gets way too many emails asking how many clowns can they breed in their community trigger tank.

He also has/had a full time job plus the hatchery. He has spent a LOT of time/money coming up with a stable water system, uses nitrate removal columns and heavy UV, so, thats his secret, build the best water stabilizing system that you can and monitor it,

he doesnt sell except in wholesale quantitys . But last I knew he had all the business he wants. As said, if you buy clowns in the Chicago area they are most likely his if they are tank raised.

We corresponded quite a bit before I left the country, his system at the time was probably the best I have ever heard of.

 

[stuart_nash83]

my clowns have been together 6 months and have still not laid and ideas as to why? They share a tank with living rock some and some turbo snails. They did have an anenome but sadly it recently died.

They are very healthy are giving a quarter water change weekly and are feeding well.

they are Perculia Clowns

 

[Dman]

6 months isn't that long, give it some more time
You could also:
Extend the photoperiod to 14hrs, raise the temp to above 27 degrees and feed to saturation at least once per day.

 

[Noof]

I agree with Dman,

Let them go they will get there eventually.
What sort of tank volume are we talking here?

1/4 water change per week could be a little unsettling for them?