Whats in ultra Pac (Fauna Marin)?

suta4242

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From a reefer's perspective, living here can be great. Unfortunately, getting foods or any bacterial products past our quarantine can be really painful / impossible. I'd like to try a couple of FM products, but can't because of this.

Next best thing I suppose is whether anyone knows whats actually in Ultra Pac? Is there a DIY version of this? Again, much prefer the actual product but not much I can do if its not available locally.

Any constructive input is appreciated...:wave:
 
You cannot import any FM product?

Ultra Pac is type of polymer, If you can Ultra min D then there is no need for Ultra Pac.

You can try asking Claude in the FM thread, maybe he will let you in on the secret.
 
No ultra min D either. Basically if they're not satisfied with the ingredients listed, it gets irradiated / destroyed. If the product hasn't been already approved and its seized you can't just go and pick it up. Theres some KZ products we don't get either because of this. That said, someone locally recommended coral snow & said its the same as ultra pac. Is that correct???

A retailer was going to try & get permits a while back, but he felt there wasn't enough demand to justify the added expense & time. I have thought of asking Claude, but feel a bit awkward doing that.
 
Claude is a good guy, he might have the best advice in regards to your question.
If you feel awkward and want to keep it private, then just send him an e-mail.

I do not believe coral snow is the same as ultra pac.

What do you need Ultra Pac for? planning on keeping denronephthya? scleronephthya? similar?
 
I want to know this as well. I know it's supposed to mimic coral mucus, which is a mixture of proteins and polysaccharides I think.
 
I want to know this as well. I know it's supposed to mimic coral mucus, which is a mixture of proteins and polysaccharides I think.

Yes, polysaccharides & amino acid oligomers/polymers.

I am guessing here but perhaps

amino acids, specifically Glycine
Riboflavin
Panthenol and other B vitamins
Hydrochloride

This is just a quick guess, I am most likely missing the main ingredients.
 
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v428/n6978/full/nature02344.html

I will log on to my school's server and download the full article later. There is another article I was reading the other day from 2000 about Dendronephthya nutrition (not Fabricius et al) I will pull that one up again too.

Has anyone thought about connecting just a small dendro specific tank to a large SPS tank? Hmmm... actually Chingchai's setup could work like that. All the mucus production from the SPS feeding the dendros.
 
Has anyone read the latest article on "what corals eat" in Coral Magazine? It's written by Dr. Shimek. A lot of the plankton in coral reefs live in mucous "bubbles," and discard them about 8-10x's a day. The mucus is colonized by bacteria and then eaten by corals. The article also mentions how zooxanthellae containing corals excrete mucus almost immediately after the symbiotic algae provide them with energy (sugar). Check it out!
 
Has anyone read the latest article on "what corals eat" in Coral Magazine? It's written by Dr. Shimek. A lot of the plankton in coral reefs live in mucous "bubbles," and discard them about 8-10x's a day. The mucus is colonized by bacteria and then eaten by corals. The article also mentions how zooxanthellae containing corals excrete mucus almost immediately after the symbiotic algae provide them with energy (sugar). Check it out!

I don't get the Coral Magazine but can you post what is says please?
 
HI Sutu

PAC is a marine biopolymer mixed with some organic compounds to create a
artificial coral mucus
together with food particles and MIN D and bacterias you can create
old coral mucus which some animals like to eat
...

Coral snow is totally different and has nothing to do with PAC

....

Australia is not as difficult
as the most thought
even not for private people
rgds claude
 
Widdig, A., and Schlichter D. (2001) Phytoplankton: a significant trophic source for soft corals? Helgol Mar Res 55: 198-211

That's another article worth reading, as it disputes the common belief that Dendronephthya are predominantly herbivores.

Abstract
Histological autoradiographs and biochemical
analyses show that 14C-labelled microalgae (diatoms,
chlorophytes and dinoflagellates) are used by the soft
coral Dendronephthya sp. Digestion of the algae took
place at the point of exit of the pharynx into the coelenteron.
Ingestion and assimilation of the labelled algae depended
on incubation time, cell density, and to a lesser
extent on species-specificity. 14C incorporation into
polysaccharides, proteins, lipids and compounds of low
molecular weight was analysed. The 14C-labelling patterns
of the four classes of substances varied depending
on incubation time and cell density. 14C incorporation
was highest into lipids and proteins. Dissolved labelled
algal metabolites, released during incubation into the
medium, contributed between 4% and 25% to the total
14C activity incorporated. The incorporated microalgae
contributed a maximum of 26% (average of the four species
studied) to the daily organic carbon demand, as calculated
from assimilation rates at natural eucaryotic phytoplankton
densities and a 1 h incubation period. The
calculated contribution to the daily organic carbon demand
decreased after prolonged incubation periods to
about 5% after 3 h and to 1–3% after 9 h. Thus the main
energetic demand of Dendronephthya sp. has to be complemented
by other components of the seston.
 
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