Whats the difference between these two overflow boxes

And I would avoid both of them. I personally don't care for that design, since it requires a pump to make them work correctly.

Would suggest doing yourself a favor, get a LifeReef one, it is a U-tube design and doesn't require a lifter pump to hold its siphon. The are more expensive, but IMO, worth every penny. I have one on my 75, been using it for 7+ years and it has never lost its siphon (( excluding me removing the U-tube on purpose ))
 
any reason you don't want to drill the tank? That'd be the best, more than likely.

If not, a lifereef is supposed to be the best out there.
 
I have an eshopps, I had to modify it so that it wouldn't lose siphon when the main pump was off. I will only recommend the LifeReef one. Seeing them in person and side by side, can see that they aren't the same.
 
Re: Whats the difference between these two overflow boxes

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14778773#post14778773 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Stingray12
am building a 55 gallon sump to go along with the wetdry filter...

Understand you are building a 55 gal. sump, but that part about using it along with a wet-dry filter is not clear. If a separate unit, what wet-dry filter is in the plans? Also, how will all components of the filtration system be connected together.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14779639#post14779639 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Stingray12
2/3" glass getting drilled. Not to safe and not willing to risk it.
So the glass you are using to build sump is 2/3" thick? As long as it is not tempered, it can be drilled. If not DIY, can take to glass shop (or LFS) and they will drill it for a fee.
 
My brother has a life reef HOB overflow. The siphon doesn't break even during a power outage (also when you pull the plug on the return, we tested it before a power out to see if the claim was true :) ). It seems like it works really well.
 
I have the larger CPR design like the two you were looking at, so I have a few first hand observations. First, these designs can really move a lot of water, much more than the U tube designs (which I have had a couple). With the CPR, I have tried attaching the air spill line to both a lifter pump, and not long after that to a maxijet 1200 powerhead. The problem with both of these is the same: the water going through the overflow is unfiltered, so you will get debris either plugging up the lifter pump (in very little time, even in spite of using the cheesy little mechanical filter they recommend), or else potentially after a longer period (for the power head in which case the airline tubing eventually gets a block, especially along the top surface of the overflow). When there is no obstruction, the maxijet can clear the entire air column out in a matter of seconds, very impressive (say after a power outage and assuming the siphon is broken). But if you use this, you must always do a periodic check to make sure an air column isn't forming along the top surface.

One other thing: they state that the flow rate through your system should closely match the max flow rate of the overflow or else problems may occur. Normally one thinks of the overflow not being able to handle the high throughput of a big pump, but in my case the opposite proves to also be problematic, which is if the pump is pushing too little in relation to the overflow's design capacity, more air bubbles will tend to be trapped in the overflow in a shorter amount of time. An LFS acquaintenance of mine said that he had the same problem, and after replacing his main sump pump with a more powerful pump he no longer has the air buildup problems which the air lifter and powerhead solutions protect against.

So, if you do go with this unit try to really match the pump to the overflow's rate carefully....not too big a pump, but then again not too big an overflow for the rate you anticipate either.

Scott
 
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