What's wrong with my zoas?

[degibson84]

Before Christmas I had a local reefer frag me off a bunch of different zoas she had and glue them all together on one larger rock. They are all doing great until last night the keds reds look like this



Doesn't look like pox. I thought pox was dots these look more like stripes. Also every other zoa to this point is fine.

 

[Torx]

Hard to really see anything, do you have any white light on these so we can see the color a little better? Pretty sure these are purple people eaters and when mine close up, they do the same thing. If that is what they are, they are pretty picky, or at least in my experience, more picky then most other zoas.

 

[A. Grandis]

First look for predators at night and observe your fishes too.
Also could be hydroids or something else, irritating them.

They are PEs and that looks like a type of bacterial infection to me, if there is no predation or irritation.
I would try a hydrogen peroxide dip:

10% H2O2 to 90% tank water for like 1 minute and see what happens.
Rinse colony in another container with tank water before returning it to the display tank.
Hydrogen peroxide dip once a day max, for 2 days (if needed) and then wait another day to dip it again. One dip normally should be enough.

I normally prefer Lugol's for bacterial infections, but I found out that some times that type of infection is hard to get rid of with Lugol's!!
I've lost whole colonies before with that thing happening!! Some times one of 2 polyps show the symptoms. It's in the system, or in their bodies!!!!
I think it's bacterial infection because normally there is no way to find any organism stinging the polyps. If it's a stinger it's really tiny. It looks like something is irritating the skirts, but I treat as bacterial infection with H2O2 nowadays.

Why did you take a picture with only the blue light on?
Are they under them on at all times?
You need "whites" too!

Good luck!

Grandis.

 

[degibson84]

at the time my blue+ were the only bulbs on and iPhones love to make everything extra blue. I do run 2 coral+ and a purple+ as well. And yes they are red PE not really sure why i said ked red.I have never seen any nudis or anything on any of my zoas. My stock list in the tank as far as fish is a small brackish Green Spot puffer, a pair of clowns, a pair of Scott's wrasse and a Tomini tang. I have never seen any of the fish touch any corals in the tank.

 

[BeanMachine]

Before Christmas I had a local reefer frag me off a bunch of different zoas she had and glue them all together on one larger rock. They are all doing great until last night the keds reds look like this



Doesn't look like pox. I thought pox was dots these look more like stripes. Also every other zoa to this point is fine.

I may have missed it but the stripes you are seeing are normal, lots of the PE or hawaiian polyps have those.

 

[BeanMachine]

First look for predators at night and observe your fishes too.
Also could be hydroids or something else, irritating them.

They are PEs and that looks like a type of bacterial infection to me, if there is no predation or irritation.
I would try a hydrogen peroxide dip:

10% H2O2 to 90% tank water for like 1 minute and see what happens.
Rinse colony in another container with tank water before returning it to the display tank.
Hydrogen peroxide dip once a day max, for 2 days (if needed) and then wait another day to dip it again. One dip normally should be enough.

I normally prefer Lugol's for bacterial infections, but I found out that some times that type of infection is hard to get rid of with Lugol's!!
I've lost whole colonies before with that thing happening!! Some times one of 2 polyps show the symptoms. It's in the system, or in their bodies!!!!
I think it's bacterial infection because normally there is no way to find any organism stinging the polyps. If it's a stinger it's really tiny. It looks like something is irritating the skirts, but I treat as bacterial infection with H2O2 nowadays.

Why did you take a picture with only the blue light on?
Are they under them on at all times?
You need "whites" too!

Good luck!

Grandis.

You do a 90 / 10 ratio ? I've always done 50 / 50 and haven't noticed a problem just wondering if you chose to go with a lower dosage just in case?

 

[degibson84]

I may have missed it but the stripes you are seeing are normal, lots of the PE or hawaiian polyps have those.

I'm wondering if it is normal as they are kind of trying to open today

 

[A. Grandis]

You do a 90 / 10 ratio ? I've always done 50 / 50 and haven't noticed a problem just wondering if you chose to go with a lower dosage just in case?

I've answered your PM, but will publish here as well:

"Yes, I've tried 50/50% before and had serious damages in only a minute of exposure for some Zoanthus spp. Therefore I suggest to start with 10/90%. Main thing when treating with H2O2 is to watch the zoas. There is a balance between the percentage and time of exposure.
10/90% in a minute should take care of most problems, including algae. There is no need to go stronger than that IMO. I prefer to treat with another dip, if needed, than a big percentage and/or longer period of exposure.

I would say that if you choose to go 50/50% you should minimize the time the zoas will be exposed to the stronger solution.
Not a big deal. Common sense on the treatments.

Grandis. "

Cheers!

 

[A. Grandis]

I'm wondering if it is normal as they are kind of trying to open today

Yep, one could say that we usually find those symptoms on Hawaiian polyps, but isn't something that we should see as a "normal" thing. They don't look normal to me, so I would treat. They can die from that. Some times they detach from the rocks during/after showing that type of symptom. I've lost whole colonies of untreated PEs for that and many other types of infections before, so"¦
I would say threat, if you can.
I've had that on brown and red PEs, mostly.

I wish I could prevent that to happen.
No matter what we do that seems to come with the zoas.

Grandis.

 

[FragsFragsFrags]

i've answered your pm, but will publish here as well:

"yes, i've tried 50/50% before and had serious damages in only a minute of exposure for some zoanthus spp. Therefore i suggest to start with 10/90%. Main thing when treating with h2o2 is to watch the zoas. There is a balance between the percentage and time of exposure.
10/90% in a minute should take care of most problems, including algae. There is no need to go stronger than that imo. I prefer to treat with another dip, if needed, than a big percentage and/or longer period of exposure.

I would say that if you choose to go 50/50% you should minimize the time the zoas will be exposed to the stronger solution.
Not a big deal. Common sense on the treatments.

Grandis. "

cheers!:d

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