Where can I buy very rare fish?
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jmaneyapanda
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liveaquaria.com, marinecenter.com, justrarefish.com have some of the ones you have listed. To go in what? A 20 gallon?
takayan
Premium Member
No, I am not going to put all of them. I just want to put some of them. In Japan, you can see these fises in a shop, but I have not seen thse fishes in U.S. before jmaneyapanda introduced some websites.
Actually, who sells very expensive fish like more than$1000? I do not really see them.
Actually, who sells very expensive fish like more than$1000? I do not really see them.
achillesheel
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not many people get these fish do to their high price. they can be special ordered though. be prepared to wait a while.
liveaquaria actually has a conspic angel right now.
liveaquaria actually has a conspic angel right now.
copps
Premium Member
To answer those four...
Centopyge resplendens- now fully protected from wild collection on the one island that it's found. Incidentally it's the only angelfish on the IUCN red list of threatened species... simply due to it's small range, not its abundance. I've visited the one breeder that's done this species (Frank Baensch of RCT hawaii) and later this year he will have more available if the fish participate... He's recently done Centropyge debelius, another multithousand dollar dwarf...
Paracentopyge boylei- This fish you simply need connections to get even if you have money to throw around. Not a fish you could simply have an online place order you, again even for the right price... These will inevitably become more available, either through captive propogation or as more divers hit their habitats with rebreathers (or on DEEP air dives like the story behind the naming of Centropyge narcosis)
Chaetodontoplus conspicillatus- The opposite of above... widely available from wholesalers for the right price. By far the most expensive fairly commonly available fish in the industry... the one at Liveaquaria has been there for a few weeks, and the retail price of $1500 is not bad, and LA is a top notch company with a great guarentee...
Lioproproma carmabi- just settle for rubre or swalesi...
What's my rare fish? The list is huge... but here are a couple uber-rares!...
I've got a trio of regal angels in my display, but here's a xanthic form found in the Maldives... drool... drool
Some of the inbred morphs of the isolated populations of Holacanthus ciliaris (queen angels) at Saint Paul's Rocks Brazil are nuts!
Another uber-rare morph is the all blue potters... this photograph taken in Japan by Hiroyuki Tanaka at a shop in Japan... apparently collected from deep water in Kona... I know and have questioned people who know Hawaii inside and out and have little to add on this morph (including Bruce Carlson, Charles Delbeek, and Brian Greene, who deep dives in Hawaii all the time on rebreathers... check out his site... www.twilightaquatics.net)
Centopyge resplendens- now fully protected from wild collection on the one island that it's found. Incidentally it's the only angelfish on the IUCN red list of threatened species... simply due to it's small range, not its abundance. I've visited the one breeder that's done this species (Frank Baensch of RCT hawaii) and later this year he will have more available if the fish participate... He's recently done Centropyge debelius, another multithousand dollar dwarf...
Paracentopyge boylei- This fish you simply need connections to get even if you have money to throw around. Not a fish you could simply have an online place order you, again even for the right price... These will inevitably become more available, either through captive propogation or as more divers hit their habitats with rebreathers (or on DEEP air dives like the story behind the naming of Centropyge narcosis)
Chaetodontoplus conspicillatus- The opposite of above... widely available from wholesalers for the right price. By far the most expensive fairly commonly available fish in the industry... the one at Liveaquaria has been there for a few weeks, and the retail price of $1500 is not bad, and LA is a top notch company with a great guarentee...
Lioproproma carmabi- just settle for rubre or swalesi...
What's my rare fish? The list is huge... but here are a couple uber-rares!...
I've got a trio of regal angels in my display, but here's a xanthic form found in the Maldives... drool... drool
Some of the inbred morphs of the isolated populations of Holacanthus ciliaris (queen angels) at Saint Paul's Rocks Brazil are nuts!
Another uber-rare morph is the all blue potters... this photograph taken in Japan by Hiroyuki Tanaka at a shop in Japan... apparently collected from deep water in Kona... I know and have questioned people who know Hawaii inside and out and have little to add on this morph (including Bruce Carlson, Charles Delbeek, and Brian Greene, who deep dives in Hawaii all the time on rebreathers... check out his site... www.twilightaquatics.net)
copps
Premium Member
Takayan... these are not my fish, just photos... I have some rarities (check my gallery), but nothing on this scale... rare is a relative term, and the good thing about Centropyge and Paracentropyge is that the code has been cracked and it's just a matter of time before many more are available through captive rearing. RCT has proved with rare species it could be profitable!
Snorvish, Frank will update his website soon, but even he doesn't know what will be available as he's just ramping things up again and has to see which fish participate. This fall he should begin selling again... It's unbelievably time consuming and he took a break... Regarding boylei, I'd start my search by just contacting people... maybe ask Serdar at phishybusiness... he purchases through Japan and has gotten wrought iron Bflys and C. joculator (only ever been one registered collector of these in their tiny range) before... It would probably have to be a purchase through Japan like that, as any ever hitting the LA wholesalers in any decent shape would get sucked up long before any of us outside of LA would have a chance... Anyway, no peppermints from Frank yet, but he has done a close relative in the Paracentropyge subgenus (C. multifasciatus)... Here's a shot of two of his little C. debelius babies that went to Japan (as all have)... these went for big bucks as his production of them was very limited. I'm heading to Hawaii again in October and we have plans to meet up again...
Frank is brilliant and an inspiration and pioneer in the hobby... he's got unbelievable things cooking at RCT, and all you need to do is see the species he's done and you know he means business... This is a shot from his house on Oahu overlooking Diamondhead... (he's the tall German... I'm the little Italian
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A few years ago I was at one of my LFS and the owner asked me what a blue potter's was, as it was on his list for $600 wholesale... I travel to Hawaii yearly with work and know so many people there, and none of them have a clue about these... I suspect it's a very deep isolated population or we'd see more of them, as Hawaii is loaded with collectors...
Sheol, yes that is the same variety shown in Scott Michael's Volume 3... a MUST HAVE book for anyone interested in this thread... I've seen a few in Japanese tanks, but never here in the states...
Anyway... let us all dream on...
Copps
wayne in norway
New member
I was under the impression that when they removed from the wild and into captivity the queen angel morphs changed into bog standard queen angels - is that from Debelius et al.?
