which clam?

szeth13

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i have a standard 75 gallon tank with a 250 watt de xm mh over. i am sucesfully keeping sps and have been for some time now and i am interested in a clam. i kno this light is on the low side for some of the clams and i was wondering which type would be best
 
I think that lighting would work pretty well for most any clam. Some, like the croceas and maximas, you might want to put up in the tank, but a 75 isnt that deep, so a 250 w MH should penetrate quite well.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10661610#post10661610 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jmaneyapanda
I think that lighting would work pretty well for most any clam. Some, like the croceas and maximas, you might want to put up in the tank, but a 75 isnt that deep, so a 250 w MH should penetrate quite well.

exactly, so i would say a crocea for the smaller tank and sufficient light :)

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10662601#post10662601 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by szeth13
i really like squamosa would that be a good choice?
yes for sure but they will get bigger but not huge. your lights are fine and as long as you can keep good stable parameters you should be successful.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10663323#post10663323 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by a4twenty

..........they will get bigger but not huge.

you musta never kept a Squamy for any significant length of time. in 8 yrs i had one go from 4" to larger then a football and would no longer fit in a 55, put it in the 180 and it got 14+ inches and played hell on Ca demands. Squamosa (and Giga) grow to Huge size in the home aquariums if kept under optimal conditions and much quicker then a Derasa.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10663648#post10663648 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JetCat USA
Squamosa (and Giga) grow to Huge size in the home aquariums

i guess huge is relative.

the squamosa doesn't grow any larger than the maxima ( max 18", average around 12" ) and doesn't reach the maximum size of a derasa ( up to 24" ) or the monster gigas ( up to 54" ).

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10663648#post10663648 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JetCat USA
...... and much quicker then a Derasa.

the derasa actually has a higher min. growth rate ( approx. 1/4" difference ) per year and the squamosa has a slightly higher max. growth rate ( approx. 1/2" difference ) per year. so while there is a slight difference and under optimal conditions the squamosa might grow a little faster, it still would not likely outgrow the derasa in over all size.


i stand by my first answer. a crocea ( up to 6" ) for the small tank size but if he wants to go a little bigger, squamies are easier to keep than a maxima and he likes them :)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10665807#post10665807 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by a4twenty
..........i stand by my first answer.

i looked back, it was just barley over a year ago you got your first clam, a 'Wild Sun Crocea' and was asking for information on it yet shortly after that you became an expert in clams. with that said, I stand by my previous comment that you have very little experience with keeping clams especially long term.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10667487#post10667487 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by szeth13
i am torn between derasa and squamosa, whish is more forgiving and needs less light

Dangerous way to think. If this is your criterion, I say delay, and dont get a clam. It sounds as if your trying to just keep your head above water. Get stronger lights and eliminate the need for "forgiveness", and then move forward.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10666037#post10666037 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JetCat USA
i looked back, it was just barley over a year ago you got your first clam, a 'Wild Sun Crocea' and was asking for information on it yet shortly after that you became an expert in clams. with that said, I stand by my previous comment that you have very little experience with keeping clams especially long term.

Making an arrogant and inflammatory comment like that makes me disregard your experience outright. Heavy forbid anyone express a differing opinion.
 
its not that i am doubting myself, i just dont want to throw away money and kill a clam if something were to happen. i had a maxima in my 20 a few years ago and was doing fine untill a rockslide got to it :(
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10667556#post10667556 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jmaneyapanda
...........Heavy forbid anyone express a differing opinion.

there are times when opinions expressed are made on what one has read and not what they have experienced first hand and it's obvious by their expression. it'd be like a 16 yr old telling which over the road truck was the better ride, it's hard to make a legitimate suggestion with no personal experience to base that on.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10666037#post10666037 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JetCat USA
..........yet shortly after that you became an expert in clams.

where do i proclaim to be a clam expert? i gave an opinion based on the params given.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10666037#post10666037 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JetCat USA
with that said, I stand by my previous comment that you have very little experience with keeping clams especially long term.

and this is relevant how? does anyone else think that a crocea is a really bad idea?

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10668195#post10668195 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JetCat USA
it's hard to make a legitimate suggestion with no personal experience to base that on.


forget about how little life experience i have, is the info i gave incorrect?

and yes you are right i did back up my comments with information found in books and on web pages. as you have pointed out i am not an expert and that is why i quoted information published by the experts. that doesn't change the fact that a derasa clam has the potential to grow larger than a squamosa


i don't think it is that hard to give a suggestion. lots of light and smaller tank, to me that sounds like a good tank for a smaller clam like a crocea. ( and unfortunately your opinion of my experience level or legitimacy to post a reply in this thread really doesn't matter to me. )
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10668195#post10668195 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JetCat USA
there are times when opinions expressed are made on what one has read and not what they have experienced first hand and it's obvious by their expression. it'd be like a 16 yr old telling which over the road truck was the better ride, it's hard to make a legitimate suggestion with no personal experience to base that on.

I guess I should get my credentials in order and present them to you for approval. Hopefully you'll "allow" the rest of us to participate.
 
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