I am setting up my 240 and was wondering which pump I should use to return water from my sump. I do not have a closed loop. I was thinking of using a couple of modded mj1200's plus the return pump as my only circulation. What do you think? The pump will be in my living room so it must be as quiet as possible.
Which pump for my 240? Dart or the one larger?
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Shnabbles
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Are you looking to use the pump strictly for pushing water up to the return or do you want to use the pump for alot of your water flow?
How much head pressure do you need?
Im using a Barracuda on my 180 with about 15 feed of head pressure.
Make sure the over flows in your tank can handle the amount water your pump can put out.. i had to throttle back my pump because it was pushing to much water. I also T'ed it off so i could put some flow through the fuge.
How much head pressure do you need?
Im using a Barracuda on my 180 with about 15 feed of head pressure.
Make sure the over flows in your tank can handle the amount water your pump can put out.. i had to throttle back my pump because it was pushing to much water. I also T'ed it off so i could put some flow through the fuge.
reeferman75
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I have a sequence hammer head on my 240 for return love it , I also hav my sump and equipment in a fish room behind the tank.
seamonkey2
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I got a dart as a return for my 240, it has pleanty of flow and is very very easy on the ears
also if you want add Eductors/penductors to the return lines and you just incresed the flow x 5 with no extra equipment, thats what I did
good luck
Jose
also if you want add Eductors/penductors to the return lines and you just incresed the flow x 5 with no extra equipment, thats what I did
good luck
Jose
seamonkey2
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you can buy the penductors in a bunch of places
http://www.customaquatic.com/customaquatic/subsubcategorypage.asp?subcatindexid=pf-ot-pd
the price is some what standard, you may get it a few dollars cheaper somewhere else, up to you
sorry no pics, but I am sure you can find them in others tanks
good luck
Jose
http://www.customaquatic.com/customaquatic/subsubcategorypage.asp?subcatindexid=pf-ot-pd
the price is some what standard, you may get it a few dollars cheaper somewhere else, up to you
sorry no pics, but I am sure you can find them in others tanks
good luck
Jose
E-A-G-L-E-S
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Man that's a whole lot of flow going through your sump...anything more than what your skimmer pump runs is a waste - imo.
If you plan on incorporating a fuge that would be another reason to use much slower flow through your sump.
If you plan on incorporating a fuge that would be another reason to use much slower flow through your sump.
I agree with Eagles - we tend to use the main return as our tool to create water flow within the tank. To do so requires a big pump. The cost is a lot of noise from the drains. All the main circ pump need do is move enough water for the skimmer to do its job.
On the good side - The Dart is wonderfully quiet for a living room (avoid Iwaki â€"œ very noisy). It will do you well if your head pressure is OK. The Dart cranks 2400gph at 6ft. Sequence will tell you that by installing a valve on the output side you can throttle back the flow. This makes the pump run cooler. Last longer, and reduces the wattage consumption. I would use a Dart and throttle it â€"œ you can tune the pump to your needs, but you can’t increase the output of a pump to small.
On the good side - The Dart is wonderfully quiet for a living room (avoid Iwaki â€"œ very noisy). It will do you well if your head pressure is OK. The Dart cranks 2400gph at 6ft. Sequence will tell you that by installing a valve on the output side you can throttle back the flow. This makes the pump run cooler. Last longer, and reduces the wattage consumption. I would use a Dart and throttle it â€"œ you can tune the pump to your needs, but you can’t increase the output of a pump to small.
erics3000
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Decisions Decisions …. I am starting a 300 or 375 and have been contemplating the dart pump myself. I wanted to originally use the dart so I can have 2 1½ returns on each side of the tank. This tank will be an in wall room divider. I am using a 55 as a sump. Noise and power consumption are big concerns of mine. That’s why I liked the dart.
Other has mentioned on the forums the same thing about too much pump for the return. I was thinking of starting out with something smaller for the return. Just liked mentioned on this forum. Something that can feed 2 1½ on each side of my tank. Then use the dart for a closed loop, with an OM 4 on a timer to conserve power. What pump can handle a few feet of pipe. I already have a pair of maxijets too help.
So I have a couple questions?
For the 375 with a smaller pump can I use my 55 gal as the sump?
What pump can work in the sum and have enough power for 2 returns?
Then how do I hook up the calcium reactor? Does that tie of the sump pump? Should I figure this into the calculation?
What about returns? Where should they be for the open loop, and closed loop?
Other has mentioned on the forums the same thing about too much pump for the return. I was thinking of starting out with something smaller for the return. Just liked mentioned on this forum. Something that can feed 2 1½ on each side of my tank. Then use the dart for a closed loop, with an OM 4 on a timer to conserve power. What pump can handle a few feet of pipe. I already have a pair of maxijets too help.
So I have a couple questions?
For the 375 with a smaller pump can I use my 55 gal as the sump?
What pump can work in the sum and have enough power for 2 returns?
Then how do I hook up the calcium reactor? Does that tie of the sump pump? Should I figure this into the calculation?
What about returns? Where should they be for the open loop, and closed loop?
Mahlhavoc
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Do the penducters add alot of head pressure if it is on a closed loop to a dart? I know the dart isn't very pressure rated so I am wondering if you use it on a CL setup if it will indeed increase the flow by 5x or even close? How about the looks of the penductors?
I mean if a dart has minimul head on a CL setup, you would see about 3000+ flow, but if it was indeed just 4x, that would bring it to 12000 per hr, is this accurate? Anyone who has them agree?
I mean if a dart has minimul head on a CL setup, you would see about 3000+ flow, but if it was indeed just 4x, that would bring it to 12000 per hr, is this accurate? Anyone who has them agree?
I run a Barracuda on my 240 for the return. I am using it for flow and filtration. It is a little louder than I expected, but I am pleased overall with the results.
I have two 1.5" drains and two 1 inch return lines that feed a 3/4 outlet on each line. The result is good flow shooting toward each other from opposite ends. Currently eliminates the need for additional powerheads.
Haven't had any problems in 5 months so far. Corals and Fish are happy and healthy. Although, I also run a relief line from the pump back to the sump so the drains are over run.
I have two 1.5" drains and two 1 inch return lines that feed a 3/4 outlet on each line. The result is good flow shooting toward each other from opposite ends. Currently eliminates the need for additional powerheads.
Haven't had any problems in 5 months so far. Corals and Fish are happy and healthy. Although, I also run a relief line from the pump back to the sump so the drains are over run.
xinumaster
reef addict
I'm using a barracuda on my 375g tank too and it is loud. I can hear it from my bedroom in the second floor of the house. I'm thinking of switching it to dart when I have the time.
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