rigleautomotive
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also using a ocean motions or wavy sea will reduce the plumbing down to three quarter i believe which would greatly reduce GPH on a sequence which is rated with 1.5 plumbing
which pump is best
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wife no likey
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actually, the 4-way is available w/ 1.5 and 2" in.
the SS and squirt are 1" and 3/4", respectively.
the SS and squirt are 1" and 3/4", respectively.
I am using the pan world Model 250PS , 1900 gallons per hour. It is only pushing up roughly 10 feet, so I built a manifold on the return, with some water going back into the sump, and some going back to the main tank, otherwise, the tank could not drain fast enough and it would overflow. In the future, the line that goes from the pump back to the sump, will have a media chamber and a uv sterilizer connected to it then to the sump, i just have not bought them yet.(I have started to run out of money)
I am using 1" spa flex for most applications, except the drains, which have 1" spa flex to the floor, then a reversed reducer at the floor to go to 1 1/2" hard pipe into the sump, into a 30" or so filter bag.
The closed loops right now have just the bulkheads, ball valves, and unions, ready to have 1" spa flex installed and a pump. How quiet are the blue line pumps? and how hot do they run? Ideally, a pump that runs cool, is quiet, and has good gph is what I am looking for, as I am sure that is what everyone is looking for.
I ask so many questions because i spent a bit of money for my 45g system, and ended up finding out that almost none of it was for saltwater, so i spent more to set it up the way I wanted it. I do not want to make that same mistake again, I have been reading everything I can find and asking a lot of questions. There is no one better to ask, than those who have already done it. That is why i like this sight so much, so many people here just do not know how important they are to others successes in reefing.
I am using 1" spa flex for most applications, except the drains, which have 1" spa flex to the floor, then a reversed reducer at the floor to go to 1 1/2" hard pipe into the sump, into a 30" or so filter bag.
The closed loops right now have just the bulkheads, ball valves, and unions, ready to have 1" spa flex installed and a pump. How quiet are the blue line pumps? and how hot do they run? Ideally, a pump that runs cool, is quiet, and has good gph is what I am looking for, as I am sure that is what everyone is looking for.
I ask so many questions because i spent a bit of money for my 45g system, and ended up finding out that almost none of it was for saltwater, so i spent more to set it up the way I wanted it. I do not want to make that same mistake again, I have been reading everything I can find and asking a lot of questions. There is no one better to ask, than those who have already done it. That is why i like this sight so much, so many people here just do not know how important they are to others successes in reefing.
rigleautomotive
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i dont recommend the blue line cause i use them or get anything from them for the recomendation.i just like them and they are half the cost of many comparable pumps.they are made by the former engineer for iwalki and at half the price roughly.long term they have done me justice.negligable heat transfer,quieter than iwalki,but probably a tad louder than sequence.
wife no likey
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that's a lot of pump for your sump return. That is the same as an Iwaki md-100, which pulls about 390w - not something that you need running 24/7
generally speaking, you don't need much more than 5x max turnover for your sump. With 10ft vertical rise, possibly you should move your return to a md-40 (or comparable) It will be a major savings watt-wise.
Are your CL holes already drilled?
generally speaking, you don't need much more than 5x max turnover for your sump. With 10ft vertical rise, possibly you should move your return to a md-40 (or comparable) It will be a major savings watt-wise.
Are your CL holes already drilled?
yes, already drilled. tank is full of water, with sump/return working and running. I am using the larger pump because I originally was going to have the sump on other side of basement, would have had to push through 29 feet of pipe. i ended up just going striaght down. I am going to see how it runs after the media chamber and uv is running on it along with pushing water back to main display. if it is still too much, i can always change it out. I have many unions and valves in place, so anything cna be switched out, worked on, etc.. I am not trying to use the sump for water movement, that is why i have the two seperate loops drilled. I just want to have enough "oomph" to be able to hook up whatever I want to inline and still have the head pressure to get water back upstairs. More water returns to the sump right now(being that everythhing is new), then goes to the display tank. I hope I explained that well enough, I wish i knew how to drraw a diagram on the computer, it would make things a bit easierr to show you what i am planning on doing.
wife no likey
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if your cl intakes are both 1", I would combine them into a 1.5 intake before your pump and run a sequence hammerhead into a OM 4-way or 8-way
It would be a nice setup IMHO.
You can take a look at some pics here:
http://www.oceansmotions.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=10&sid=4c883b726126437a69eef91376521315
Pete
It would be a nice setup IMHO.
You can take a look at some pics here:
http://www.oceansmotions.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=10&sid=4c883b726126437a69eef91376521315
Pete
I like the qietones pump as well but dont' get anything higher than a 4000 model. The higher ones are loud, i think they got the 45db from the low models. You can try to take a look at the Oceanrunner 6500, however that has a 1.25'' input, you can always enlarge your CL hole after the bulkhead to 1.25'' and the pump shouldn't cavitate.
I did what pennilessreefer said, i combined 2 1'' drain to 1.5 and ran my Hammerhead.
Gabe
I did what pennilessreefer said, i combined 2 1'' drain to 1.5 and ran my Hammerhead.
Gabe
that might be a good idea, so if i combine the two drains, i just split the return line to the 2 returns form the hammerhead, so 1 pump would run the whole system, rather than two seperate loops?
i was looking at that other forum for the OM's, and I am not sure if i can do that. My tank does not have a canopy, and will be against the wall(6" or so from the wall, and i do not really want the plumbing to be sticking up above the tank, I do not think it looks that good that way. For an inwall design, or with a canopy, that would work really well. not sure I could do it with my tank without it looking gawdy.
i was looking at that other forum for the OM's, and I am not sure if i can do that. My tank does not have a canopy, and will be against the wall(6" or so from the wall, and i do not really want the plumbing to be sticking up above the tank, I do not think it looks that good that way. For an inwall design, or with a canopy, that would work really well. not sure I could do it with my tank without it looking gawdy.
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