white cotton like things...
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NanoLurker
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white, cottony tufts are usually saprolegnia. can you post a picture at all? also, since this is on the horses snout i would be concerned about a bacterial infection. does it appear anywhere else on the horses body? i would isolate the fish in a QT tank and treat asap. it's been hot, has your tank temperature spiked lately? can you also list all your tank perameters (pH, salinity, temp, etc.)? do you know what species you have?
is the horse still eating? any changes in behavior?
is the horse still eating? any changes in behavior?
Hi Nonalurker,
iam posting two pictures..
www.theactorsproject.com/seahorse1.jpg
www.theactorsproject.com/seahorse2.jpg
I already out two of the seahorse in to QT tank... they are still eating but they don't seem so happy..
My levels are..
ph 8.3
ammo 0
nitri 0
nitra 0
O2 7
It's 30g tank..
And they are erectumus seahorses..
any other questions? thank you so much for your help
iam posting two pictures..
www.theactorsproject.com/seahorse1.jpg
www.theactorsproject.com/seahorse2.jpg
I already out two of the seahorse in to QT tank... they are still eating but they don't seem so happy..
My levels are..
ph 8.3
ammo 0
nitri 0
nitra 0
O2 7
It's 30g tank..
And they are erectumus seahorses..
any other questions? thank you so much for your help
NanoLurker
Member
can't see the pictures, get a 403 forbidden error 
in the meantime, you could google for both saprolegnia and snout rot and compare those to what you see on your horses. a nifurpirinol (something like furanase) would be used for the saprolengnia. i've used it on horses and it was tolerated well. as i mentioned, the fact that this is on the horses snout has me concerned that you may have a bacterial infection (both are opportunistic pathogens). if i remember correctly neomycin can be combined with the furanase but i would get confirmation on that, i've never used that combo myself but maybe some one here has.
what temperature is your tank currently at?
i would pick up some beta glucan and spirolina as well, they're believed to be immunostimulants. if your horses are eating live you can gut load feeder shrimp or artemia with it.
in the meantime, you could google for both saprolegnia and snout rot and compare those to what you see on your horses. a nifurpirinol (something like furanase) would be used for the saprolengnia. i've used it on horses and it was tolerated well. as i mentioned, the fact that this is on the horses snout has me concerned that you may have a bacterial infection (both are opportunistic pathogens). if i remember correctly neomycin can be combined with the furanase but i would get confirmation on that, i've never used that combo myself but maybe some one here has.
what temperature is your tank currently at?
i would pick up some beta glucan and spirolina as well, they're believed to be immunostimulants. if your horses are eating live you can gut load feeder shrimp or artemia with it.
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NanoLurker
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okay - hard to see details but this does not appear to be confined to the horses snout, but rather is occuring on the spines and tail as well.
do you have each of them in their own "container" or was that just for photographing? if you haven't already done it i would more all the affected horses to a 10 gallon QT/hospital tank. airline/airstone, plastic plant for hitching, etc., pH, salinity, and temp matched. i'd get some water mixed up as a general course of antibiotics is 10 days. if they are all displaying the same symptoms you will have to treat them all and they'll be more comfortable, less stressed, if they are together again.
still need to know current temperature of your tank
lower temperatures can slow the progression of bacterial infections. if you can slowly (no more than 4 degrees per day) to 68-70 it will help a lot. just remember....slowly.
have you added anything new to the tank recently? if so, how long ago.
do you have each of them in their own "container" or was that just for photographing? if you haven't already done it i would more all the affected horses to a 10 gallon QT/hospital tank. airline/airstone, plastic plant for hitching, etc., pH, salinity, and temp matched. i'd get some water mixed up as a general course of antibiotics is 10 days. if they are all displaying the same symptoms you will have to treat them all and they'll be more comfortable, less stressed, if they are together again.
still need to know current temperature of your tank
lower temperatures can slow the progression of bacterial infections. if you can slowly (no more than 4 degrees per day) to 68-70 it will help a lot. just remember....slowly.have you added anything new to the tank recently? if so, how long ago.
Current temp is about 80.. Night time goesdown to77-78... Daytime about 80-81..
Iam not sure if I can keep it around 70..
They arein a 10g qt right now..two of them..I took the pictures while iwas transferring them..
My seahhorse tank and the qt tank are almost identical...
No I didn't add anything new...the only thing I have in the tank is several hitchhickers... (I forgot theirnames)but I was told in this forum that some of the shrimp love to eat them..but I haven't added anything in the tank yet...
So what do you think these are??
Iam not sure if I can keep it around 70..
They arein a 10g qt right now..two of them..I took the pictures while iwas transferring them..
My seahhorse tank and the qt tank are almost identical...
No I didn't add anything new...the only thing I have in the tank is several hitchhickers... (I forgot theirnames)but I was told in this forum that some of the shrimp love to eat them..but I haven't added anything in the tank yet...
So what do you think these are??
NanoLurker
Member
were the hitchikers aiptasia?
hard to say exactly what it is without some nice macro shots of the affected areas but due to the temperature of the tank i'm leaning towards a bacterial infection (Vibrio sp.) which is why lowering the temperature as much as possible is so important. can you take a look at these two links (gallery on seahorse.org) and see if you find anything that resembles what you're seeing on your horses? http://gallery.seahorse.org/main.php?g2_view=core.ShowItem&g2_itemId=919 and http://gallery.seahorse.org/main.php?g2_view=core.ShowItem&g2_itemId=979
hard to say exactly what it is without some nice macro shots of the affected areas but due to the temperature of the tank i'm leaning towards a bacterial infection (Vibrio sp.) which is why lowering the temperature as much as possible is so important. can you take a look at these two links (gallery on seahorse.org) and see if you find anything that resembles what you're seeing on your horses? http://gallery.seahorse.org/main.php?g2_view=core.ShowItem&g2_itemId=919 and http://gallery.seahorse.org/main.php?g2_view=core.ShowItem&g2_itemId=979
NanoLurker
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sounds good. i'd feed them pretty liberarly right now as well, need to keep their strength up. watch your water parameters closely, especially ammonia.
i'd start rounding up some meds as soon as possible. i don't know where you are in l.a. but aquarium center (on ventura in sherman oaks) has furanase, it's pretty cheap. for a bacterial infection i would go with neomycin and triple sulfa and can be found at seahorsesource.com. they have both liquid neomycin (biosol) and triple sulfa or you can purchase neo3 which is a combination of neomycin and triple sulfa in one capsule, it comes with an ammonia blocker as well. danU frequents this board as well so he may chime in with some other suggestions on meds once we see some pictures.
i know that keeping the tank temp down and getting good macro shots is easier said then
ultimately, when your horses recover, you're going to have to get the display tank temperature down as well. 80-81 degrees is too high for erectus (almost all horses really). most of the pathogens that affect seahorses rear their ugly heads when temperatures climb and/or spike.
sent you a PM as well.
i'd start rounding up some meds as soon as possible. i don't know where you are in l.a. but aquarium center (on ventura in sherman oaks) has furanase, it's pretty cheap. for a bacterial infection i would go with neomycin and triple sulfa and can be found at seahorsesource.com. they have both liquid neomycin (biosol) and triple sulfa or you can purchase neo3 which is a combination of neomycin and triple sulfa in one capsule, it comes with an ammonia blocker as well. danU frequents this board as well so he may chime in with some other suggestions on meds once we see some pictures.
i know that keeping the tank temp down and getting good macro shots is easier said then
ultimately, when your horses recover, you're going to have to get the display tank temperature down as well. 80-81 degrees is too high for erectus (almost all horses really). most of the pathogens that affect seahorses rear their ugly heads when temperatures climb and/or spike.sent you a PM as well.
greenighs
New member
A clip-on fan from an office supply store will go a long way towards lowering the temp. I'm sure there is a bacterial infection by now, which you should treat, but the cause of the infection might be an immune system compromised by inadequate diet, stress, and/or high tank temps. Yes, in the wild seahorses are exposed to higher temps than the low 70s, but in home aquariums, the higher the temperature of the tank, the greater the chance your seahorse will show symptoms of infection. This is what many people have observed, so do try to get the temp down.
NanoLurker
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iam - i know you started neomycin/triple sulfa, how is the horse doing? any progression, recession of the affected areas?
Hey nanolurker,
it's been three days now... they seem little schocked by the medication... They are eating but not too happy...
I found the triple sulfa & neomycin.. but the recommended dose is 500 per 10G.. so I am going with one capsule each day.. and about 40%water change..(because of the ammonia)
so still waiting... The white/grey spots are still visible...
it's been three days now... they seem little schocked by the medication... They are eating but not too happy...
I found the triple sulfa & neomycin.. but the recommended dose is 500 per 10G.. so I am going with one capsule each day.. and about 40%water change..(because of the ammonia)
so still waiting... The white/grey spots are still visible...
panmanmatt
New member
Dosage for neomycin is 250mg/gallon or 2500mg per 10 gallons for a 10 day treatment with the dosage being replaced at the same percentage as your water changes.
