white stringy feces + hard breathing

[iku]

hm.. my true percs that i bought last week are showing signs of white feces (and one of them is breathing quite hard). they were eating pellets for the first day, but one (the one breathing hard) decided not to eat all of sudden. anyways, i attached some photos, and i just wanna know what i should/can do to help them survive (i REALLY don't want to see them die)

the male breathing hard

the female with the long stringy poo (shes eating though)

 

[ezhoops]

Sounds like Brooknella, not good but treatable. I would treat with Formalin or coppersafe. Go to the disease forum and look it up and treatments will be posted there. Be careful if you use the formalin its nasty stuff for fish and people.
good luck

 

[TheVillageIdiot]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9529779#post9529779 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ezhoops
Sounds like Brooknella, not good but treatable. I would treat with Formalin or coppersafe. Go to the disease forum and look it up and treatments will be posted there. Be careful if you use the formalin its nasty stuff for fish and people.
good luck

hmmmm, i thought brook was a wild caught only disease? I wonder if the vendor Iku bought from either lied about them being captive bred or had them in a system w/ some WC clowns...

hope its not brook...

 

[iku]

hm, this morning i took a better observation, and realize that their gills are kinda swollen as well. is that a sign for brook too?

 

[cschweitzer]

Sounds like internal parasites. Nematodes, trematodes, flukes, etc. Stringy poo is not a common indicator of brook, more along the lines of internal. Excessive mucus build-up starting from the front working back towards the tail is the best(or worst) sign of brook.

FW dip with formalin and malichite green can help. Hyposalinity can help. Metronidazole, praziquintel, piperazine, and many other combinations can help. I'm not one to ask about solutions, because it seems that every single person in the hobby has different ways of combatting illnesses.

 

[tpdpercula]

Hey cschweitzer. whats the best reading to have (salinity) when doing hyposalinity? I just lost a pair of black saddlebacks last week while on vaction and would not mind doing Hypo in my clown tanks

 

[iku]

cschweitzer, their skin look perfectly fine. i got the prazipro (praziquintel).
today. i think my clowns are wc :S i've never seen internal parasites in captive clowns; moreover, they were the only two clowns in the tank. (cuz usually, when its captive bred, there would be a lot in the same tank)
anyways, i already dosed 1/2 teaspoon in my ten gallon qt tank, and dropped the salinity from 1.025 to around 1.022-1.023.
thanks for the help guys
Oh, btw, do internal parasites cause the clowns to breath hard?

 

[petoonia]

Someone suggested this to me when I had a purple firefish with the same symptoms. Unfortunately I never got the chance to use it.

http://www.thatpetplace.com/pet/product/productInfo.web?&infoParam.itemKey=214450

 

[ezhoops]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9532922#post9532922 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by iku
cschweitzer, their skin look perfectly fine. i got the prazipro (praziquintel).
today. i think my clowns are wc :S i've never seen internal parasites in captive clowns; moreover, they were the only two clowns in the tank. (cuz usually, when its captive bred, there would be a lot in the same tank)
anyways, i already dosed 1/2 teaspoon in my ten gallon qt tank, and dropped the salinity from 1.025 to around 1.022-1.023.
thanks for the help guys
Oh, btw, do internal parasites cause the clowns to breath hard?

I think hyposalinity would mean more like 1.010 that's the lowest I've gone with no issues, do it slowly though. Brook and any other disease being either a wild caught or captive disease can still spread to other fish seeing as most are kept in the same holding tanks and the same systems.

 

[mikeandjenn99]

For hypo, you want to get down and stay down at 1.009 for the term of treatment. As far as the symptoms, I just lost a clown to exactly the same thing. I believe it may either be some sort of internal parasite. You're clowns are probably wc. You need to treat with coppersafe now though...Mine went downhill rapidly after stpoong eating and breathing hard. I think I lost him 3 days after, so get on it quick.

 

[MarinaP]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9663019#post9663019 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mikeandjenn99
For hypo, you want to get down and stay down at 1.009 for the term of treatment. As far as the symptoms, I just lost a clown to exactly the same thing. I believe it may either be some sort of internal parasite. You're clowns are probably wc. You need to treat with coppersafe now though...Mine went downhill rapidly after stpoong eating and breathing hard. I think I lost him 3 days after, so get on it quick.

No need for hypo or copper.

You fish have internal parasities, prazipro/metro should fix the problem.

 

[saltydude]

INTERNAL

 

[Jovreefer]

You can also soak their food in alittle prazi mixed with water. that will get into their system a whole lot quicker than treatin the tank.

 

[Lubu]

Tagging along, my crown is having the same symtons.

 

[iku]

lubu, just get a bottle of prazi pro, they work pretty well!

 

[Lubu]

Did the prazipro cure your clowns? I have both praxipro and Maracyn II but i'm not sure if they can be administered at the same time...

 

[Baalz]

Metronidazole always fixes this up for me. And you really cant overdose it