Why are my mangroves dying?

[karimwassef]

These are about a week old, but the leaves are turning brown and the stalks are getting thin.

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They're in my quarantine tank with 2 x 200W CFLs

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01315VOO6

 

[karimwassef]

my reef tank is pretty healthy.. good coral and fish health...

 

[shanesaffery]

They need nutrients to thrive, they need nitrates and phosphates. If your tank water is too clean, that might be the problem. Also they like humid air. Mines were seedlings 2 months ago but now they are growing multi tiers of leaves, I feed once a day, I have 5 fish, and it looks like my bioload produces enough nutrients for my mangroves to thrive.

 

[karimwassef]

I have a ATS and it generates massive hair algae do my water has plenty of nutrients
I also have a Xenia scrubber and chaeto box
All good except for mangroves

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And the corals are eating well too:
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[karimwassef]

But the mangrove deterioration is rapid
Here they are a week ago
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And today
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[100%hydrophylic]

Were they kept dry or in freshwater before you bought them? If they were kept in fresh water or even brackish, they need to be acclimated to saltwater over a long period of time. Probably several days. I've never had luck keeping mangroves that people propagated in freshwater.


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[Fourstars]

That scrubber is staving them. Just shows how efficient they are. I planted mine in clay pots filled with live sand and it seemed to help. also make sure you mist them with fresh water once a week.

 

[karimwassef]

That scrubber is staving them. Just shows how efficient they are. I planted mine in clay pots filled with live sand and it seemed to help. also make sure you mist them with fresh water once a week.

I'm not misting at all. Could that be it?

 

[nuttyd]

would have to agree that the scrubber is probably out competing for the available nutrients.

 

[Fourstars]

I'm not misting at all. Could that be it?

I just found the salt spray builds up and the tips burn. figure mangroves in nature receive rain. Hope this helps, I sure have learned a lot from your posts.

 

[karimwassef]

getting worse day by day... not enough light?

I sprayed with fresh water

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help

 

[mkengr45]

Did you happen to get them on eBay?

 

[karimwassef]

Nope. LiveAquaria

And I have to say they came in very healthy

 

[Fourstars]

I have mine directly under HQI 14000K Phoenix bulbs. They do seem to stretch to the light. My scrubber is still maturing so wonder if I'll have issues with them in the future? but I don't think that is your issue considering they have been in the tank only a week or so. Might do some research and see if you can cut them back and start over. I think maybe the poster who mentioned they could have been grown in fresh or brackish water might of been right. I'd ask for a refund! They sure went down hill fast.

 

[karimwassef]

should I put them back in freshwater? Is it too late?

 

[Fourstars]

Might be worth a try. The tops that are all brown you could try cutting were its still green and see what happens?

 

[karimwassef]

how far do I cut them back? the brown stems are drying up, do i cut back to the green base?

 

[Fourstars]

I think if you cut at the thickest part it wil die. I'm thinking maybe an inch up from transition?

 

[rvareef]

I bet its the parasitic featherdusters

 

[C.Eymann]

I see you mentioned you sprayed them with freshwater, I'm pretty sure this needs to be done daily, esp the undersides of the leaves if memory serves me right.
It sounds like you have a ton of nutrient export going on in your system, not sure if lack of nutrients could be the issue or not. Lighting wise I know mangroves have a very high tolerance, but possibleven to shock via going from dimly lit to intense light? Just throwing out ideas.
Did LA specify if it was a white, black or red mangrove?