why are my shrooms dieing??????

[Kengaroo131]

one after another they just keep dieing the same way they shrivle up then guts come out and the next day there a pile of mush.what the heck is doing this???????????

if some one can give me an answer on what the heck is doing this that would be great.

 

[cowboyswife]

Parameters? Lighting? Tap or ro/di?

 

[alexb518]

they are reproducing. that is what they look like when they are about to split into two. give it a week, and you should see two where eaach one was. this means you're tank is probably doing well.

 

[Kengaroo131]

there deffinatly not reproducing. by tonight that will be a moosh pile looks kinda white when its done and there is absolutly no sight of life at this stage its just slime.

cowboyswife- nitrates 0, nirites 0, amonia 0, calcium 430.
the lighting is a coralife single row 28 watt 50/50 bulb

 

[BurntOutReefer]

well....they are stressed, hence expelling their "guts"....
whats the rest of your parameters? and how much of that 28w are they getting? and waterflow?

 

[Kengaroo131]

the 28 watts is directly over them and there fairly close to the top. shold i do a small water change? ph is at 8.4

 

[BurntOutReefer]

sg?

 

[dazed]

Have you checked the alkalinity lately??
What is it.....

 

[BurntOutReefer]

you're not going to believe this....but I think they are getting too much light........
move them towards the bottom.....

 

[Kengaroo131]

burntoutreefer- are you sure???

 

[BurntOutReefer]

check alk...and move them down....its not going to hurt them anyway....

 

[Kengaroo131]

i dont know what the current alk. is i ran out of yest for the the other day and didnt get a chace to pic another one up. i'll try moving them down theres not much room to move them much of anywhere cause its only a 10 gallon. i also just did a 20% water change and fed them brime for some reason they love that stuff.

 

[plummike]

I have a lot of them in my tank. Your right it isn't reproduction, they just spread. I don't think it is excess light since I use 250w MH. Do you add anything like Essential Elements, Molybdenum, or Strontium?
It seems like they are sort of imploding. Try feeding some Cyclopeeze.

 

[Frick-n-Frags]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9811377#post9811377 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by alexb518
they are reproducing. that is what they look like when they are about to split into two. give it a week, and you should see two where eaach one was. this means you're tank is probably doing well.

good one.



no, my guess is that there is either something horribly wrong with your water chemistry OR you have stray electricity.
those are dying brutally. whatever is up, they REALLY don't like life right now.

I wish everyone could remember back to that thread with a rock of shrooms, with one by the sand that was offcolored. the owner was concerned it was dying. that person needs to see this thread to understand, his shroom may have just been a bit "unsettled" once things are in perspective.

 

[Kengaroo131]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9812583#post9812583 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by plummike
I have a lot of them in my tank. Your right it isn't reproduction, they just spread. I don't think it is excess light since I use 250w MH. Do you add anything like Essential Elements, Molybdenum, or Strontium?
It seems like they are sort of imploding. Try feeding some Cyclopeeze.

i add that liquid calcium. the kent ph superbuffer. what is the Cyclopeeze? is that in liquid for? just like food for them?

 

[Henry Bowman]

You are adding supperbuffer and pH is 8.4 I'd bet your alk is high. Lay off the superbuffer until you can measure alk and Ca. If the alk is outside normal parameters you can have problems with shrooms and softies.

AND, I'm with burntoutreefer. They can get too much light. I've seen T5's do exactly what you are talking about when shrooms were placed too high in the tank.

 

[sunfish11]

Not reproduction...that is distress as you said.

Anyway I do keep some shrooms hairy, and rhodactis under halides but low to mid way through the tank.

Don't buffer alk or add calcium unless you test for them. This is probably your issue. I bet your alk is through the roof. Once I added (accidently) Some Superbuffer DKH that was in some topoff water to my fresh mixed saltwater, only a couple of teaspoons max, and had some of the craziest cacium precipitation I ever saw. Had to throw out the whole batch. I am willing to be your cal, alk, and mag are way out of whack and that is your shroom problem. Play with the light level though, as suggested. Unless you have a heavy calcium, alk, mag usage than you are probably getting all you need from your water changes and adding additional is ill advised.

Oh and do a big water change now.

Lisa

 

[saabore]

How long have you had the shrooms? when you ibnitially acclimated them, did you start them down/low in your tank and slowly moved them up? The issue could be acclimation procedure as well as your Alk being high.

 

[sunfish11]

I have yet to acclimate a shroom (water wise) and yet to have one croak because of it. I will conceed, however, that if put suddenly under strong halides when used to low light that they will go in to shock and possibly croak after puking their stringy white guts all over the tank. They can also puke their guts out and be just fine the next day. I find them hard to kill, even when it is intentional homicide.

I have had a few green shrooms I didn't like that up and died overnight and everything else in the tank was fine...maybe they sensed the bad feelings.

Lisa

 

[saabore]

Just sharing my experience..limited as it is. I had major losses with shrooms and I know they are supposed to be unkillable, but when I changed the process, all of them are doing great. Now it could be that my tank has aged a little and stabilized something I was not aware of.