why arent there more people wanting octopus , also ?'s about octopets

marinerules

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hey guys ,
I was just curious why we dotn have more people wanting an octopus , i mean its odd to me that I posted a earlier thread on here about 4 weeks ago , and its still on page 1 LOL :eek1:

ABOUT octopets,
he told me that he guarantees live arrival , and
to me , its better buying from him than my petstore as he sells them the day he gets them in , which stresses them out too much

but im really afraid that it wont make it alive on shipping,
its starting to get a little warm here now , about 80 degress
 
most people don't like them because they are a PITA, they require a tank to themselves for the most part and it has to be very secure with no openings in it larger then the beak of the octopus or the damn thing will crawl out and lay on the floor and die.

as for shipping I wouldn't worry about that, they are fairly tough and shippers should be placing ice packs in the box with them.

kc
 
I have no exp with them someone else will have to chime in on that.

just curious have you already got your tank setup for an octopus? how did you secure the top if so?

kc
 
right now i have fish in the tank cyclin it , its been cycling for about a month and a half now , im still going to let it go another month or two though before getting one
 
I was asking about how you have your top on the tank setup.

I had to use acrylic and seal the tank completely then drill 1/4" holes in the acrylic for gas exchange. all plumbing coming over the back of the tank had to be sealed around as well. the only 'lid' to open I had to make it with a secured latch. I tried a 'twist' type hold down for it but the octopus would reach a tactical out and open the door. they are very smart and if there is a way for him/her to get out of the tank, they Will find it. just making sure you know what your getting into.

kc
 
Do you have pics of how sealed your tank? Im starting to get intrested in octopi(sp?)......What size tank would you recomend for the ones that octopets.com sales?

tim
 
I've kept octopus bimaculoides for several years now and I don't bother to seal the tank. None of my bimacs has ever tried to escape, because if they bothered to put any effort into it they could easily get out. So if you don't want to spend a lot of time and effort into sealing your tank get a bimac.

I highly recommend octopets for anyone who wants to purchase an octopus.

-Michael
 
Got my octo from Octopets and Jim (the owner) is a great person to deal with. You should be fine on shipping, but I did do a little octo proofing on the curious spots like the overflow. My octo likes to actually come to the top of the tank and feel over the edge and look out while I feed him.

So far he has not shown the desire to leave the system, and I have a reef right next to it.

They are alot of work, but the interaction they provide is worth every minute.
 
timhenry said:
Do you have pics of how sealed your tank?

No, unfortunatly that was many yrs ago. i've not tried my luck with one sense because i figured they were all about the same as far as trying to get out of the tank. i had a common Atlantic Octopus vulgaris that someone had caught while walking tide pools.

the tank was a 100g and i just cut the acrylic to fit the trim around the top and then drilled vent holes every 2". for a door i cut out a 1'x1' opening and made the acrylic door where it slid into a 'J' shaped channel around 3 sides of it and then had a nylon screw that was threaded down through a hole so it couldnt slide open without the screw being unscrewed. with a hinged lid and a twist over latch to hold it closed it would reach out and twist the latch with a tentical and then climb out.

for O bimaculoides i belive they only get a mantel size to about a baseball and 12" arms, so a 30g should be an acceptable size if kept alone.

hth
kc
 
Bimac can get larger than that. Depends on feeding, and other factors, but I know there are Bimac out there with a 20" arms. For that reason, I suggest a 55.
 
go ahead and buy one, then you can have fun watching it slowly die in your tank, they do not live verry long in the first place... i have made the mistake keeping a few one that i caught locally and one from an lfs...leave them in the ocean where they belong..they are a verry intelligent animal and i swear they get bored in a tank and slowly waste away..sorry to be so harsh but i think they should be left alone
 
in the wild their lifesapn is only 12 months or a little longer, and there have been plenty of people here who have kept them succesfully

PLUS IM NOT TAKING THEM out of the ocean
mine are captive bred


so dont go accussing me of not respecting animals

i know you probalbly didnt mean it that way
but it makes me sick that we are destroyign our oceans, i care alot more than soem people
 
ive kept them for a year also, i cant explain it but it just makes me sick to see one in a tank.... im not saying dont try one its your desision, not mine..supply and demand, if people didnt buy them so much .......
 
octopets are definately recommended by me. I've ordered 3 times from there (last two times were for food/pods) and I've always had positive experiences. My octo is doing great!
 
Captive bred species do not deplete or harm the environment. You are correct in saying a octo is short lived. Some much more than others. There is no way to know the age of a wild caught species or to trust a lfs on it is ludicrous.

Octo do require their own tank, and take a lot of work, but I think due to your personal failures you are judging another aspect marine hobbies that you have not had the best luck at.

With the proper knowledge and care, I assure you the interaction an octo provides is some of the most fun you can have in your home with marine aquaria, and last for at least a year with a captive bred species.

Their natural lifespan is the same in the wild as in an aquarium. What do you put in your tanks that does not make you sick, or is it just what you personally can get to thrive and have success at?

If so, I truely respect that, NO ONE should put anything in their aquariums that they can not properly care for, but there are many out there increasing the knowledge of ceph care.
 
Ok, heres some more questions....for O. Bimaculoides(from octo pets)

What is the recomended tank size?( i know some have already answered this above, i want more opinions...)

What is the diet for them?( Pods and Clams? surely theres more than that....)

Can you hand feed them ?

What filter would be recomended, im assuming they are messy eaters.....

How do they breed ?

Thank you for all of your help!

Tim
 
I recommend a 55, do to them getting larger and larger. Feeding does effect their overall size.

I feed snail, clams, shrimp, fish. The pods are for juv.

I have a wet/dry filter. The most important piece of equip is a good skimmer!

They are egg rearing for the most part.

Hope this helps!
 
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