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[cdentii1]

Re: Re: Re: Clowns

Re: Re: Re: Clowns

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8293272#post8293272 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jjackson
its not about english being your best subject I dont care about bad spelling, but the fact that it was listed as refigurm in your post and your signature tells me that you actually pronounce it that way... I mean I could understand english being poor and it being reefuggeeum or something but not something that far off...

all and all if you are going to give advice know something about what you are saying... the whole minimum suggested tank size for an LTA was way off.

and also... if you are going to take advice make sure it is good advice cause sometimes you will be told the entirely wrong thing.....

I think you need to re-read my post about 10-11 posts up about aquarium size
I know you are planing a 75G tank just take the plunge and get a 125 or even better yet a 180+:rollface: Now seriously what would be wrong with setting up a 125 or even a 180 vs a 75?
I would also strongly suggest when you set up your 180 LOL I met to say 75 get metal halide lights
mpd525 is planing to set up a 75g if you was to look at his "current tanks" you would see (soon to be 75). Now I feel that tank would be fine for a LTA and yes you can keep a LTA in much smaller and yes his 29 would be fine I even have a sebae in a 37G for 4.5yrs+ however he wants a larger tank so with that in mind why not go for it all and get IMOP a large tank like a 125 or 180.
So lets recap here yea I can not spell worth a s*#@ ohh well that is life and I made a mistake and am sorry and by your assault on that I feel I have also paid for it, but a larger tank and metal halide lighting I am sorry I would have to say that is very solid advise as well as a Refugium opps did I just spell that right? and do I know what I am talking about now that I was able to spell it correctly?
BTW #1 OSU rules

 

[jjackson]

hey I was a buckeye fan for a day this year... infact I was at that game cheering for them

 

[cdentii1]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8294482#post8294482 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jjackson
hey I was a buckeye fan for a day this year... infact I was at that game cheering for them

Awesome game I wish I could have been there and a 180 aquarium I envy you.

 

[55semireef]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8293147#post8293147 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by cdentii1
Well first off from his discription I don't believe it is a LTA but a Atlantic anemone I was not recommending to switch out to A higher K rating as he already has 10K (which simulates noon on the reef) I was suggesting changing the 6700 and 7000k to actinic which does penetrate water deeper as water filters out light first the reds then yellows and blue last which is actinic there is a symbiotic relationship with anemones, corals, clams ect.. and Zooxanthellae algae which is the main source of food for most corals and anemones which is grown by actinic lighting. I have a sebae anemone a good deal of this species nutrition is derived photosynthetically for 4.5yrs now under 10k M/H and actinic P/C lighting and is doing very well.

Incorrect. I am talking about light bulbs. Not the sun!!!

I the oean, light only penetrates the first 100 feet and as the deeper you get in that first 100 feet, the bluer it is. Your right on that.

What I was talking about was lightbulbs. A 6700 K light bulb penetrates a fish tank more than a true actinic bulb. Anemones ususally live in shallow waters, and receive the strongest lighting from the sun. They get the lighting that the 6700K and 7000K bulbs provide. Anemones do not do as well without these bulbs and their growth is much slower.

 

[55semireef]

If you want to talk football, go to this thread.
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=944783&goto=newpost

 

[cdentii1]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8294528#post8294528 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 55semireef
If you want to talk football, go to this thread.
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=944783&goto=newpost

Thanks I never new this thread existed.

 

[jjackson]

dont really want to talk football... just saying I was at the game.... anyhow yeah I love my 180 I plan on getting a larger tank by next year so while I am at med school my corals and everything will have lots of growout room at my parents house.

 

[Morphieus5150]

Nems

Nems

Aren't Different Species of Anemones found at different depths in the Water Column in Nature???..Or do they ALL live in Shallow water??... Just wondering..I thought BTA's were a Deeper water species compared to Say a Carpet Nem,wich Requires much more intense Lighting than a BTA because they are found closer to the surface????.... Just wondering....

 

[cdentii1]

Re: Nems

Re: Nems

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8294725#post8294725 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Morphieus5150
Aren't Different Species of Anemones found at different depths in the Water Column in Nature???..Or do they ALL live in Shallow water??... Just wondering..I thought BTA's were a Deeper water species compared to Say a Carpet Nem,wich Requires much more intense Lighting than a BTA because they are found closer to the surface????.... Just wondering....

Yes you are correct they do live in different depths however most are shallow water and do require different lighting. A lot of people don't realize that anemones can live hundreds of years in the wild yes you read that right hundreds of years, however in the aquarium only 3% actually live 5 or more and is considered old age mine is 4.5yrs old in a 37G and doing great and is under 175W M/H 10k and 130W actinic P/C what works for 1 may not work for another.
B]as jjackson stated: and also... if you are going to take advice make sure it is good advice cause sometimes you will be told the entirely wrong thing.....[/B]
I could not agree anymore with this statement and I do disagree with 55semireef on the use of 6700 or 7000k for anemones. however again what works for one may not work for another, in my tank and water parameters my lighting works for me and may not work for another.

 

[55semireef]

Re: Nems

Re: Nems

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8294725#post8294725 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Morphieus5150
Aren't Different Species of Anemones found at different depths in the Water Column in Nature???..Or do they ALL live in Shallow water??... Just wondering..I thought BTA's were a Deeper water species compared to Say a Carpet Nem,wich Requires much more intense Lighting than a BTA because they are found closer to the surface????.... Just wondering....

I never said all nems were in shallow waters. I said most of them were. Even BTAs are still found in shallow waters. Lots of them are found also in deeper waters. But we are talking about an LTA that lives in more shallow waters. Thats my point.

 

[55semireef]

Re: Re: Nems

Re: Re: Nems

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8295236#post8295236 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by cdentii1
Yes you are correct they do live in different depths however most are shallow water and do require different lighting. A lot of people don't realize that anemones can live hundreds of years in the wild yes you read that right hundreds of years, however in the aquarium only 3% actually live 5 or more and is considered old age mine is 4.5yrs old in a 37G and doing great and is under 175W M/H 10k and 130W actinic P/C what works for 1 may not work for another.
B]as jjackson stated: and also... if you are going to take advice make sure it is good advice cause sometimes you will be told the entirely wrong thing.....
I could not agree anymore with this statement and I do disagree with 55semireef on the use of 6700 or 7000k for anemones. however again what works for one may not work for another, in my tank and water parameters my lighting works for me and may not work for another. [/B]

How am I giving out wrong information???? Show me. I want you to quote where I gave out wrong information. Please. Show me.

 

[cdentii1]

Re: Re: Re: Nems

Re: Re: Re: Nems

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8297717#post8297717 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 55semireef
How am I giving out wrong information???? Show me. I want you to quote where I gave out wrong information. Please. Show me.

I never said you gave wrong information, however I did say I don't agree with the use of 6700 or 7000k bulbs for anemones, I do apologize if it was taken that way as it was not intended to do so.

 

[55semireef]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Nems

Re: Re: Re: Re: Nems

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8299374#post8299374 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by cdentii1
I never said you gave wrong information, however I did say I don't agree with the use of 6700 or 7000k bulbs for anemones, I do apologize if it was taken that way as it was not intended to do so.

Apology accepted because I did take it that way. Sometimes its hard to tell what the person actually means because its the internet and you can intrepret things differently than what was supposed to be.

All I am saying about the 6700 and 7000 K bulbs is these bulbs mimic light that anemones receive in their shallow waters. YOu do agree that most anemones live in more shallow waters and only a few such as the BTA live in deeper waters right?

But since we are talking about the LTA, it is best to provide 6700 or 7000K bulbs to mimic their enviroment. This is the closest thing to the spectrum of natural sunlight and thats what we are aiming for.


cdentii1, what kind of anemone do you have again?

 

[jjackson]

remember he isnt sure.... but seems like it may be a Condy.

 

[55semireef]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8300181#post8300181 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jjackson
remember he isnt sure.... but seems like it may be a Condy.

Condy anemones still need strong lighting. Well at least the one I had did. I guess it depends on the location. Mine was whithering away under PCs but when I upgraded from PCs to T5s, it grew like crazy. And thats a big upgrade.

 

[cdentii1]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Nems

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Nems

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8300167#post8300167 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 55semireef
Apology accepted because I did take it that way. Sometimes its hard to tell what the person actually means because its the internet and you can intrepret things differently than what was supposed to be.

All I am saying about the 6700 and 7000 K bulbs is these bulbs mimic light that anemones receive in their shallow waters. YOu do agree that most anemones live in more shallow waters and only a few such as the BTA live in deeper waters right?

But since we are talking about the LTA, it is best to provide 6700 or 7000K bulbs to mimic their enviroment. This is the closest thing to the spectrum of natural sunlight and thats what we are aiming for.


cdentii1, what kind of anemone do you have again?

I have a sebae anemone just over 4.5yrs old. lighting can be odd because say you take 175w M/H 10k (which is more of a "spot" type of lighting) as I am sure you know)) and 130W P/C actinic (more of a spread out type of lighting) and combine the two the actinic will lower the kelvin rating giving it more of a shallow-mid water effect the same should also apply to spread out type in theory, and allow more diversity to keep other corals such as the frogspawn, zoos', and mushrooms that he currently has. Again this is just what I have found to work best for me. then Again now I think about it my anemone was not doing the greatest when I had it under 130W (65W 10K/ 65W Actinic) in A 15G @ 8.66 W per gallon, then I upgraded to A 37G added the 175 M/H 10K and changed out both bulbs to actinic now I am at 8.24W Per Gallon which is actually .42W per gallon less and the thing took off like crazy.

 

[jjackson]

the Watts per gallon thing is pointless.... there are too many other factors.... I would try and forget WPG in general... just forget you ever heard it.

 

[cdentii1]

I do agree completely with the WPG rule to throw it out. I think that was kind of where I was going with the less watts and better results.
However I don't have A lux meter so I really don't have any other way of measuring my light intensity hum...... so now what???????

 

[jjackson]

I think the now what falls on commen sense.... am I going to keep acros under N.O. ... well no am I going to keep them under PC not well... VHO same story some have success...

Anemomes are very similar some people have success at lower lighting and I believe alot of it has to do with what tank they came from.... were they thriving in a lower light tank....

I mean if we would just use our brains.... do you know how many lumens an anemone or sps coral require? even if you had a lux meter all that will tell you is how bright it is... not what every species wants.

 

[cdentii1]

True very true.