GroktheCube
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A week and a half ago, I broke down my tank to catch all my fish so that I could eradicate crypto (introduced via un-QTed inverts). They've been getting TTM protocol since 7/18. I introduced a couple new wrasses to QT, figuring now was a good time, given QTs were already up and running. First were introduced on 7/22, second on 7/24. One of the wrasses from the first group was found dead on the morning of the 23rd with some white spots.
The QT tanks are two 40 breeders, each with a powerhead, a heater, and a wand-style airstone.
Behavior from all fish is more or less as I expected, up until yesterday. At that point, the wrasses became a bit more subdued. I noticed my male flasher wrasse with breathing faster than normal. By the end of the day, one of the wrasses was hanging out up near the surface, in a spot where there is pretty swift waterflow from a powerhead and a bubbler.
This morning, two wrasses are exhibiting this behavior. Male flasher wrasse is displaying extremely elevated respiratory rate while hiding in a pipe, lying on his side. The lying on his side part doesn't really concern me, that's how he hides, but he's breathing very, very fast. Observed flashing in firefish, one of the fish from my DT that started TTM on the 18th. Given he's gone through 3 transfers, the odds of him still having ich are pretty damn low.
No fish have any visible spots, discoloration, or excess mucous. Excellent colors all around, they're just acting like they're in low oxygen water.
Fish not displaying symptoms: Twin-Spot Bristletooth Tang, Magnificent Foxface, Tailspot Blenny, Exquisite Fairy Wrasse.
I'm planning on doing a freshwater dip into a sterile QT this afternoon. I figure that'll show me if they have flukes, get them into a clean tank in case I haven't been adding enough prime or there's something else bothering them, and buy me a little more time if they do have velvet. Given the obvious and quickly progressing respiratory stress, I'm thinking the stress of doing a FWD is probably worth it in case they have either flukes or velvet.
Does this sound like early stage velvet?
Is my plan to do a FWD into a clean QT for observation sensible, or should I assume velvet and treat it as such immediately?
I have a cycled HOB that was set up on a sterile 10g tank and cycled using a boatload of fresh seafood and bacteria in a bottle so that I could get a biofilter seeded to handle the fish while they were in fallow. It could very easily handle the fishes' bioload.
I also have 100g of 99% pure CP on hand.
My only concern is the wrasses. I've heard reports of chloroquine killing them.
If I dose with CP, should I go for the full 10mg/l, or start at 5mg/l to see how the wrasses respond, and up to full concentration if they're handling it?
If this is velvet or brook, I want to nip it in the bud, but I also don't want to overreact and end up putting fish in even greater danger for no reason.
The QT tanks are two 40 breeders, each with a powerhead, a heater, and a wand-style airstone.
Behavior from all fish is more or less as I expected, up until yesterday. At that point, the wrasses became a bit more subdued. I noticed my male flasher wrasse with breathing faster than normal. By the end of the day, one of the wrasses was hanging out up near the surface, in a spot where there is pretty swift waterflow from a powerhead and a bubbler.
This morning, two wrasses are exhibiting this behavior. Male flasher wrasse is displaying extremely elevated respiratory rate while hiding in a pipe, lying on his side. The lying on his side part doesn't really concern me, that's how he hides, but he's breathing very, very fast. Observed flashing in firefish, one of the fish from my DT that started TTM on the 18th. Given he's gone through 3 transfers, the odds of him still having ich are pretty damn low.
No fish have any visible spots, discoloration, or excess mucous. Excellent colors all around, they're just acting like they're in low oxygen water.
Fish not displaying symptoms: Twin-Spot Bristletooth Tang, Magnificent Foxface, Tailspot Blenny, Exquisite Fairy Wrasse.
I'm planning on doing a freshwater dip into a sterile QT this afternoon. I figure that'll show me if they have flukes, get them into a clean tank in case I haven't been adding enough prime or there's something else bothering them, and buy me a little more time if they do have velvet. Given the obvious and quickly progressing respiratory stress, I'm thinking the stress of doing a FWD is probably worth it in case they have either flukes or velvet.
Does this sound like early stage velvet?
Is my plan to do a FWD into a clean QT for observation sensible, or should I assume velvet and treat it as such immediately?
I have a cycled HOB that was set up on a sterile 10g tank and cycled using a boatload of fresh seafood and bacteria in a bottle so that I could get a biofilter seeded to handle the fish while they were in fallow. It could very easily handle the fishes' bioload.
I also have 100g of 99% pure CP on hand.
My only concern is the wrasses. I've heard reports of chloroquine killing them.
If I dose with CP, should I go for the full 10mg/l, or start at 5mg/l to see how the wrasses respond, and up to full concentration if they're handling it?
If this is velvet or brook, I want to nip it in the bud, but I also don't want to overreact and end up putting fish in even greater danger for no reason.
