Wrasse having a bad response to prazi?

[LukFox]

Haha yes I am. I added the sig there because I tend to get called Luke with this username. :lol:

 

[Recty]

I would have made my directions a lot simpler had I known you were a girl.

Just kidding I wont mention it again.

Keep us posted on the health of the wrasse. I'd be interested to hear how the transfer method works if you end up going that way, I've heard of the method but never actually seen anyone do it.

 

[LukFox]

Will do. Hopefully his rapid breathing goes away with the treatment!

 

[Recty]

Depending on how these wrasses handle freshwater dips, it might not be a bad idea to freshwater dip them for a couple minutes between each tank transfer.

 

[LukFox]

The male handled his dip really poorly (he seems to handle everything poorly, blah), but the girls seem much more resilient so I could try it out for them.

 

[LukFox]

The male handled his dip really poorly (he seems to handle everything poorly, blah), but the girls seem much more resilient so I could try it out for them.

 

[LukFox]

The male handled his dip really poorly (he seems to handle everything poorly, blah), but the girls seem much more resilient so I could try it out for them.

 

[LukFox]

The male handled his dip really poorly (he seems to handle everything poorly, blah), but the girls seem much more resilient so I could try it out for them.

 

[LukFox]

The male handled his dip really poorly (he seems to handle everything poorly, blah), but the girls seem much more resilient so I could try it out for them.

 

[LukFox]

The male handled his dip really poorly (he seems to handle everything poorly, blah), but the girls seem much more resilient so I could try it out for them.

 

[Recty]

It probably isnt necessary, if only because of the fact that whatever the male is carrying, if he is carrying anything, will just get back on the females anyway.

Up to you of course, but if you're not going to dip them all there probably isnt a lot of point to it since they are sharing the same water.

 

[LukFox]

Holy crap my browser was freaking out last night. :| I didn't even know I posted 100 times. Augh at least I only messed up my own thread.

True true... I may try dipping him once more in that case to see how he handles it.

 

[Recty]

What is weird is I looked at this thread this morning and it only had 26 replies, the last one being yours and there wasnt a duplicate 5 times...

Now, it shows you posted 5 times last night but I didnt see them when I checked earlier.

 

[Recty]

What's really weird is this is the 34th post in this thread but the forum shows this thread has only 28...

Decide if/how you're going to treat the wrasses yet?

 

[LukFox]

It's like I broke the server lol. I'm going to put them through a week of prazi (started it today), then start the transfer method.

 

[LargeAngels]

I don't think the Cupramine had anything to do with your wrasses issues. If that was the case you should have seen it much earlier. More likely it was the affect or Prazi killing flukes or internal parasites.

 

[Recty]

I don't think the Cupramine had anything to do with your wrasses issues. If that was the case you should have seen it much earlier. More likely it was the affect or Prazi killing flukes or internal parasites.

At this point it's just conjecture, but I can easily see a wrasse being able to handle being in cupramine for a couple days and then slowly showing signs of stress. You build up to the dose, the wrasses body is fighting off the copper like it should and then it starts losing the fight.

Anyway, just because it didnt immediately freak out doesnt mean it wasnt the cupramine. In fact, if it was Prazi killing flukes or internal parasites, when she put the wrasses in non coppered water they wouldnt have recovered as fast as they did.

 

[LargeAngels]

There is a possibility it was the Cupramine, but it may also have been the water quality. I didn't see anywhere about the water quality. I just have never seen any bad reactions to Cupramine in any fish, even copper sensitive fish. I treat every fish I get with Cupramine and still have yet to see a bad reaction. I have seen some fish be a little reclusive and slow down on eating after Prazi and it is probably what JHemdal describes as the flukes leaving holes in the fish's skin after being killed.

 

[Recty]

There is a possibility it was the Cupramine, but it may also have been the water quality. I didn't see anywhere about the water quality. I just have never seen any bad reactions to Cupramine in any fish, even copper sensitive fish. I treat every fish I get with Cupramine and still have yet to see a bad reaction. I have seen some fish be a little reclusive and slow down on eating after Prazi and it is probably what JHemdal describes as the flukes leaving holes in the fish's skin after being killed.

Like I said, it's all conjecture at this point It could be a number of things, but the fact that it cleared right up after being put in "good" water makes me not blame fluke holes, unless she put the wrasses into not only "good" water but also "magic" water that heals holes instantly.

It could have been poor water quality and it could have been cupramine, hard to say. I'd personally blame the cupramine since she's QT'd fish before and knows how to keep water quality up.

I treated a wrasse, a checkerboard wrasse I believe, with cupramine once and noticed it go downhill within a couple days. I had a purple tang in the same QT and it was perfect but the checkerboard started really having problems... I blame the cupramine only because the other fish in the tank was fine, water quality was fine and nothing else had changed besides me adding cupramine.

 

[LukFox]

I doubt water quality was a problem, though I admittedly did not test it when things were getting weird. Even so, I didn't do anything to harm the filters or dump in a whole bunch of food to rot.

Months back when I first started using cupramine, I know I overdosed a pygmy angel because I misread the test. She very obviously lost balance until the effects wore off some hours later in clean water. The female wrasse's dip in her swimming reminds me of a very low grade of what the angel had. This time I do not believed I overdosed, but I think it is possible they grew sensitive to it.

Whatever it was, they're in prazi now and afterward they will be given the transfer treatment, too. Covering all the bases. Today all of the wrasses are still swimming around fine and eating eagerly.