wow :eek1: I did not expect this if it was not linked to something here I would not post it here. Ive talked to yahuch and all is ok . What happend is that she was giving away some fish ,I live in Foxpoint Wi (north of Milwaukee) I agreed to take them. im in the Chicago area several times a month so it was no big deal. I drive to her home(wonder lake) and no one would answer phone. I hung around for a short time drove over to living sea stopped to buy coral from two other members.I finaly contacted them before heading home and was told that I cant get them today, she had a class I would have to come back (I was late and thats more than understandable They live in wonder lake and I did not know the area). But then I started calling and never got any answer I called for 2-3 weeks every other day no one ever answered left messages no reply. Initaly I offered to pay (nothing is free) then we settled on just trading some frags .My only problem was the extended drive and then no one talked to me . As it turns out she had become ill and is just now starting to get around and she asked if I still wanted the fish. like I said I needed to find out what happend myself. This is why I did not post any speculations as to what happend or what I thought may have happend.