Yellow tang

RoDogVillan

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I currently have a 75 g. Fairly new tank. The tank is about 2 months old and the diatom bloom has just cleared. I have a naso tang and jewel damsel. I aqcuired a yellow tang 7 days ago. He was healthy full of life eating and energetic. He even seem to be super close buddies with the naso tang. I fed them this morning and when i came home the yellow tang was dead stiff on his side on the sand. I also have a couple of softy corrals and 30 snails and 30 crabs. Please help this is the second time this has happen but the first fish was a blue hippo. The hippos seem to have ich but i do not know now sense my naso is thriving. Water perameters are 79-80 f. 0 all across the board with ph of 8.1. Sg is .23.<br/>
 
How long did you have the Tang. Watch it closely as Tangs may have aggression to each other if they are not fed correctly. Indications are rip fins. Also, I would like always recommend you QT the fish for at least 2 weeks minimum.
 
Please don't take offense here, but your need to re-read the stickies.

1) You are going way way too fast. At this stage you might be looking at adding the first fish.
2) If the blue hippo had ich your tank is now infested. It will need all fish removed and left fishless for 12 to 16 weeks. This would be an ideal time to set up a QT and treat the remaining fish and QT all future purchases.
3) You tank is too small for a tang.

Also with salinity did you mean 1.023? .23 is extremely high.
 
How long did you have the Tang. Watch it closely as Tangs may have aggression to each other if they are not fed correctly. Indications are rip fins. Also, I would like always recommend you QT the fish for at least 2 weeks minimum.

The minimum QT time is at least 6 weeks (12 is better). 2 weeks is pointless.
 
Bundy~. Can you explain the difference between 1 to infinite weeks. If QT is primarily a observation period for the specie to be observe for ich or any other problems, why wait so long? You are pretty much transferring it to another tank with 50% environmental change. I would say two weeks minimum.
 
Because 2 weeks isn't sufficient time for some of the infections to present themselves. The fish will be stressed when relocated and it needs time settle and be observed.

Quote : http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-10/sp/feature/index.php
So, how long do I have to wait?

Ahhh, impatience. No character trait is more likely to kill aquatic pets than impatience, although laziness (which is related) comes in a close second in my book! If the time consuming process of curing live rock and cycling the aquarium was not enough to teach patience to the aquarist, a properly run quarantine will. There is no getting around it. For an effective quarantine, the new inhabitants must be kept for a minimum of one month. I feel so strongly about this that I would tell you not to waste your time if you can't commit to this amount of time. Time would be better spent learning to catch and remove all the fish from the main display for when an outbreak of a parasitic fish disease is encountered. Waiting that comparatively short period of time can be rewarded with the peace of mind of knowing that the health and well being of your pets has not been jeopardized. Given that most of the animals kept in reef aquaria have lifespans from decades to centuries, a month to help ensure their longevity is inconsequential. Furthermore, the proposition of holding an animal for a month will also enforce the notion that a quarantine tank must be a well-thought and designed simple system that does not cause more harm than good. Too many quarantine tanks are makeshift operations with conditions about equivalent in function to the shipping bag of water in terms of stress and water quality. By following the practices in this article, quarantine tanks should accomplish all the functions required of them.

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Both of these Maroon clownfish appear to be suffering from Brooklynella infections. Quarantine is
definitely recommended for fish in this condition. Photos by Steven Pro.

Note that the one month minimum period is for a trouble free quarantine. If the tank has been treated with medications at any time, the countdown does not start until after the treatment is finished and the animals are in perfect health. Realistically, that means some specimens are going to spend two or more months in quarantine due to the time it takes to complete a course of the medication or the treatment protocol. Again, I can't caution aquarists enough. There are no shortcuts here. Anyone trying to dissuade you is probably just trying to convince you (and himself) that what they have been doing for years works fine. Don't be pulled to the dark side. The lure of simply tossing new fish and corals into one's tank is attractive, but the Fish Disease Forum is littered with individuals who bought into that mentality. It simply doesn't work in the long run. Eventually, the pets you bought and cared for will end up paying the price.
 
I cleaned out the ich if that is what it was about 2 weeks ago. Everywhere i have spoken have said its nearly impossible to get rid of ich completely unless using copper which destroys everything. Yes 1.023 i have had the naso for about a month and had the yellow for 7 days. I did not quarantine but he wasnt sick. There we no signs. He was fat munching on the garlic induced seaweed and mysis shrimp. I agree i might be going to fast but why wouldnt the lfs say something. I have the water induced with vitamin c and garlic to combat ich just in case. I introduced the blue hippo with the other two fish and everyone else made it.
 
Sorry to put it this way but the LFS is there to make money. They won't slow you from spending there.

There is more then one way to treat ich but if its in your tank the ONLY way to rid it is to go fallow (fishless) for 12 weeks minimum. This is the time it takes for the life cycle of ich to allow it to die of completely (it can live in the sand, rocks and filters but without a host fish will die). A lack of obvious signs doesn't equate to a disease free fish, stressed livestock is more likely to show signs. It can take time to manifest. The tangs are partially susceptible to ich.
I know its hard but to do things right you need to give things a chance to settle in your tank or you're likely to keep losing your fish.
 
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