Your mandarin training secrets

Hyperion1337

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i currently have my male green mandarin (wild) in a breeding container for about 3-4 weeks. It has been eating live brine for the first week and i started to switch it to frozen brine... It would eat the frozen but then spit it out for a couple of frozen ones. however if one of the live brine was dead, the mandarin would eat it without a problem. SO I switched to mysis however when i fed it to the mandarin, it wouldnt touch it even when it was mixed with live brine.. The odd thing that threw me off was that it was trying to jump out of the box, if would go to the top and bob it's head in and out for a min or so.. I want to know how you trained your mandarin to accept and eat frozen completely.
 
Ive tried cyclopeeze, he doesn't eat it as readily as brine. I'll try the ova. How about bloodworms? would that be a viable food source cuz its the only frozen he will eat it.
 
Live blackworms are much better to use than blood worms. In fact I would not feed blood worms at all as they are loaded in phosphates. It took us a lot of time and a lot of money. We slowly mixed in frozen with our live pods and got them over. We did this all in a separate tank which I think helped as there was no competition for food.
 
I have to ask. If you knew you were putting a mandarin in a tank that would be too small to handle the live food load....why didn't you get a captive bred Mandarin? Yes, I do know that some people have reported difficulty in getting their captive bred mandarins to eat frozen, but the willingness to do so is at least already there. At the very least, it takes less coaxing to re-train a CB Mandarin to eat the frozen fare you're providing.

If your tank IS big enough to support the Mandarin's natural hunting habit, why bother training him?

I guess that from my standpoint, buying the CB animals is more ecologically responsible than depleting the wild caught stock further. If ever I decide to buy another mandarin for another tank, I would definitely go spend the extra $$ for the CB animal.

As it is, I have two Mandarins, a male and a female, in a 37g tank. I've had them for quite a while - long before the CB animals were on the market. They both eat Mysis. I wish I could say this was something *I* did, but I would be lying. They both learned to eat frozen mysis while they were living in my 110g tank with a 29g chaeto fuge...plenty of pods for the both of them. One day I saw the male chasing down a piece of mysis. I was surprised, but didn't think much of it. Within a few months both of them were doing it. Pure blind, stinking luck. Since then I broke down the tank and re-homed them in the seahorse tank, and now they eat right out of the seahorse's feeding bowl along with the 4 horses.
 
I would just use a baster and put it near him when I was feeding the tank to make the mysis go right in front of him. Eventually he started eating it, I also keep tigger pods in the tank though to give him something to do
 
I would teach my mandarin how to eat by have a large enough tank with pods.

This is from experience with having an ORA Target Mandarin.
 
I had a mandarin in a 30g tank that was eating what ever I put in the tank. I'm not sure why or how I got it to eat prepared foods. I know that of all the foods I used his favorite was NLS pellets. I have a video of him eating, when I find it I'll post a link on here. He didn't like eating mysis that often because it was too hard for him to get down. I never fed him brine shrimp because they aren't that nutritional.

Here is the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwhNVIab36c&feature=youtube_gdata_player

I had it for about a year and them decided to give it to a friend of mine with a larger tank. A month or two later it died.


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I had a mandarin in a 30g tank that was eating what ever I put in the tank. I'm not sure why or how I got it to eat prepared foods. I know that of all the foods I used his favorite was NLS pellets. I have a video of him eating, when I find it I'll post a link on here. He didn't like eating mysis that often because it was too hard for him to get down. I never fed him brine shrimp because they aren't that nutritional.

Here is the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwhNVIab36c&feature=youtube_gdata_player

I had it for about a year and them decided to give it to a friend of mine with a larger tank. A month or two later it died.


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Some people have luck to where the mandarin will eat anything. But its not very common. This is based on the individual fish it seems.

Also to comment, but once a mandarin changes tanks, it can very much decide to stop eating. Mine did and died. Even tohugh he was eating well and good in the tank I had him in previously
 
As it is, I have two Mandarins, a male and a female, in a 37g tank. I've had them for quite a while - long before the CB animals were on the market. They both eat Mysis. I wish I could say this was something *I* did, but I would be lying. They both learned to eat frozen mysis while they were living in my 110g tank with a 29g chaeto fuge...plenty of pods for the both of them. One day I saw the male chasing down a piece of mysis. I was surprised, but didn't think much of it. Within a few months both of them were doing it. Pure blind, stinking luck. Since then I broke down the tank and re-homed them in the seahorse tank, and now they eat right out of the seahorse's feeding bowl along with the 4 horses.

Same thing here... mine was growing fat off the natural tank biology but noticed him chasing a chunk of mysis one time while feeding the other fish... within a few days he was actively hunting the mysis when i'd feed. He's hooked now... despite being a very docile fish, he will straight up fight for it now... kinda funny to watch.
 
I got lucky with my mandarin also. I had him in a tank with another wrasse that I was feeding pellets and one day I noticed him chasing and eating the ones that fell to the bottom. Now eat eats a steady diet of pellets, mysis and pods. Had him for 2 years now.
 
hi i started with live brine just as you did and i then switched pe mysis after i cut it into smaller pieces he started to go after it and eat it and ill just feed that till he eats it more readily.hth
 
Something strange occurred, when some of the live brine died, I fed him those dead ones and he chased them down and ate them. however when i fed him frozen ones he'd eat it and spit it out... something isn't clicking, is it the brand im using?
im using san francisco bay brand which i honestly think is not good at all. but what's ur opinion?
 
so should i switch brands? i was planning on getting hikari brine and pe mysis once it fully eats frozen brine.
Mandarins have tiny mouths - feed them accordingly. I have had no luck with PE Mysis myself unless it's finely chopped (and even then, my 2 don't really eat it much).

I have a M+F pair from ORA...they don't get along together (but are housed with a divider for now). I used to let them fight it out for a bit to see if it would stop and I can honestly say from my observations of who was the aggressor at the time: they need to feel comfortable to eat prepared foods.

As for their favorite foods, it's hands down Nutramar Ova, but they both eat masago as well (Capeline Roe). The latter can be bought at an Asian market for cheap - I have a 1lb tub I bought for only $20! Unfortunately, this isn't good for a staple as it's overly fattening. My guess is that they eat these foods so readily because Mandarin Dragonets have a natural diet that includes fish eggs.

The male also really likes bloodworms, but has trouble keeping them down unless they're chopped a bit. The female will eat pellets but not enthusiastically. They both also eat cyclopeeze really well (I had to train them onto this), which I think is a healthy staple while I'm getting them over to mostly pellet.

I have a couple pieces of advice as far as general feeding goes: train your mandarin to eat in a certain area and they'll learn to eventually. Read up on "Mandarin Diners" - that's how I really got my 2 to eat without polluting the tank with massive feedings. They also get spot fed now and then (1-3 times per day now). Make sure you turn the flow off when you do though.

In general, mandarins *are* hard to train: it can take a while for them to recognize something as food. I'm still having trouble with my 2 with pellets and have spent a lot of money on food for them. We get them in often at the fish store I intern at, and it's generally the same: nutramar ova is the favorite. If he's spitting it out, I think he'll take it eventually...keep trying!
 
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