ZEOstart 2 Tank & Coral Accelerator

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ai-reefer

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I'm thinking about trying this suppliment. Has anyone used it? Its available in 500ml and the recommended dosage is 1-2 ml per 250 gallon tank

I was wondering if anyone wanted to try this out and split the product with me. Not because its expensive(well:), because it will literally take me more than 2 years to use the bottle according to dosage. So most of it will be just sitting there. The bottle is $59.

Here is the picture and description of the product.

Korallen-Zucht ZEOstart 2 Tank & Coral Accelerator
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"ZEOstart brings out amazing metallic colors in Acropora, Montipora, Stylophora and Pocillopora. Soft corals grow faster and show better polyp extension. Skimmers produce up to 100% more dark skimmate than before dosage of ZEOstart. Dosing: directly into the tank 1-2 drops per 250 gallons/1000 liters per day. This product is HIGHLY concentrated."

I wanted to try this out after i saw this guys tank
he uses it daily
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I try new products all the time, so if there is something you want to try, i'll split with you :)

Let me know.

Thanks
 
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Sounds like very expensive vodka dosing, to be honest.

Also are you running the Zeovit system already?

Personally I think it all depends on how much money you want to throw at your tank. You can do a very successful Zeovit system, and spend more money than is necessary. Or you can do vodka / sugar / vinegar dosing. There are many products on the market and none are right or wrong. It depends on personal preference.

As for me, I'm going with a cool display refugium with lots of macros and mangroves, supplemented with daily Microbacter7 and periodic vodka dosing. After adding the I-Tech my last NO3 reading was 0 as of yesterday. Exciting.
 
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ZachB said:
Sounds like very expensive vodka dosing, to be honest.

Also are you running the Zeovit system already?
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I'm pretty sure its not vodka. Its definetly an elternative to vodka dosing.

I want to use their products and see what happens.

Its not about throwing money at the tank or a problem, its about gaining real knowledge with statistical evidence.
 
Hmmmm I believe Zach is right. Well I know he is. It is the same as vodka dosing your just using a different product to do it with. I have a friend who has a beautiful 280 w/ a 120 sump that is SPS dominant. Everything he has is top of the line and it shows BUT, while using Zeo (and it really doesnt matter is your using it vodka, sugar etc.) you can get overboard and strip your water so bad that there is no nutrients for your corals. Make sure you feed alot more than normal and add amino acids and trace elements to your tank while you do this. I just stopped dosing vodka because the same thing happened to me even while overfeeding and adding other supplements the water still became to stripped and the corals faded some. I read alot on the subject and so did my friend. You are right in saying that it is an alternative to vodka dosing because it isnt vodka but both methods will acheive the same outcome its just how much do you want to spend to get there. I wish you the best and hope this helps you a little.
 
I dont want to stirp my water of nutrients either. Just excess nutrients. But i get what youre saying, you think i should cancel the order?
 
Thanks for the explanation Rhett, I may have come across the wrong way in my first post.

You don't need to cancel your order.

It is personal preference.

But, just because it's not vodka, doesn't mean it doesn't carry the same responsibilities and dangers - you must be cautious. Both are fine ways of accomplishing the same thing (one is cheaper than the other :lol:). They are a means to an end, which is a low nutrient system. You have to carefully monitor parameters and dose supplements (amino acids, I dose PhytoChrom for the coral, feed fish more, and daily - they will be ravenous) because it will strip your water to the point it looks like there is none there. That I-Tech will pull some nasty stuff -which is great, because that needs to happen, otherwise residue will build up in your tank.

I just find it cheaper to use vodka. I have had a great experience with Microbacter7 - I was getting small patches of cyano while vodka dosing. The cyano went away completely when I started dosing the Microbacter 7 at the same time. Now I don't even have algae on my rocks, dude - traces, at best. Well, except for coraline.
 
ZachB said:
Thanks for the explanation Rhett, I may have come across the wrong way in my first post.

You don't need to cancel your order.

It is personal preference.

But, just because it's not vodka, doesn't mean it doesn't carry the same responsibilities and dangers - you must be cautious. Both are fine ways of accomplishing the same thing (one is cheaper than the other :lol:). They are a means to an end, which is a low nutrient system. You have to carefully monitor parameters and dose supplements (amino acids, I dose PhytoChrom for the coral, feed fish more, and daily - they will be ravenous) because it will strip your water to the point it looks like there is none there. That I-Tech will pull some nasty stuff -which is great, because that needs to happen, otherwise residue will build up in your tank.

I just find it cheaper to use vodka. I have had a great experience with Microbacter7 - I was getting small patches of cyano while vodka dosing. The cyano went away completely when I started dosing the Microbacter 7 at the same time. Now I don't even have algae on my rocks, dude - traces, at best. Well, except for coraline.
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I get what you're saying, not offended and im glad you said it because it made me really think about it.

Microbacter7 would probably be a better way to go rather than the Zeostart2

I think i will go with Microbater7 instead. Thanks Zach :D Saved me money again lol
 
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I would read,,,,,read,,,,,,, read some more and then buy something. I remeber I use to make fun of people for doing so much research before they did something. Hmmmm After many mistakes I have learned to eat my words and learn from my experiences.
 
I use microbacter7 7 and opted for using reef biofuel instead of vodka. Pricing worked out about the same but I wonp;t be tempted to drink my tanks doses :D

I do use NeoZeo (8 bucks a pund) and thatw as ALOT less than many other systems. I got such a steal on teh zeo reactor that I went for it. I paid 100 bucks and if I decide against zeo media in the future it is still workable as a really nice gfo/carb reactor :-)

Rhett has it right..research, research, research. I spent almsot 90 minute sin all talking to CHris Brightwell on his sytem alone!
 
I've had similar results as Zach with vodka so i think i will stay away from that stuff for now.

Its hard to research products like Zeostart2 because its not made in the US, very few people have used it and the contact number is in denmark lol + it doesnt list any of the ingridients which ****es me off
 
andywe said:
I use microbacter7 7 and opted for using reef biofuel instead of vodka. Pricing worked out about the same but I wonp;t be tempted to drink my tanks doses :D

I do use NeoZeo (8 bucks a pund) and thatw as ALOT less than many other systems. I got such a steal on teh zeo reactor that I went for it. I paid 100 bucks and if I decide against zeo media in the future it is still workable as a really nice gfo/carb reactor :-)

Rhett has it right..research, research, research. I spent almsot 90 minute sin all talking to CHris Brightwell on his sytem alone!
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I was hoping you would chime in, I was actually just getting ready to say that Andy has experience with zeovit and he should ask you about it :bum:

Bill is an excellent resource for vodka dosing information.

I'll have to check out the BioFuel- I've heard good stuff about it.

+3 to researching products - it saves lots of money in the long run :bounce1:
 
It is primarily vinegar (based on the smell) with other proprietary additives. There are cheaper ways to provide a carbon source for your tank. To be fully utilized, it must be used in conjunction with the other 3 Zeo "basic 4". The system requires absolute chemistry stability and running alkalinity levels at NSW levels, leaving no room for error. If you're still interested, go to z e o v i t dot com and you'll find lots of help there.
 
My friend was running the "Basic 4" Cee is talking about and his tank looked very nice for a long time till it go too UNL. I asked how much the stuff cost for all 4 and I about fell out.
 
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