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The Saltman
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They may be less efficient, but in the end it looks like its worth the one-time cost versus ongoing cost of replacing zeolite rocks. In a matter of time(longer than zeolite rocks) a ULNS will still be achieved using them.
The Saltman
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How do I figure the correct vinegar and sugar ratios to start off with and ramp up to? I have the article about starting vodka.
Paul_PSU
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Saltman, this is the recipe I use:
http://glassbox-design.com/2008/vsv-total-organic-carbon-in-the-reef-aquarium/
http://glassbox-design.com/2008/vsv-total-organic-carbon-in-the-reef-aquarium/
The Saltman
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The dosing recommendation with this mixture involves starting with 0.1 mL/20-gal per day, and gradually increasing to a maintenance dose of 0.5 mL/20-gal per day. I have about 200 gallons of water volume. This would mean starting to dose 10ml of this mixture and increasing by 0.1ml each week?
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12136851#post12136851 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Zedar
Zeo is doing the same thing, just more aggressively.
Zeovit is a group of zeolites that were chosen for their ammonium absorbing properties in saltwater.
These Zeolites trap ammonium molecules in their pores. This rapidly drops the amount of ammonium in the tank.
"This is why its so aggressive." it short circuits the ammonium cycle that occurs in none zeo tanks.
But thats not the end of the story. After the ammonium gets trapped. Bacteria(Aerobic) feed on the ammonium and reduce it to nitrite. we all know this cycle .. the difference is .. on the inside of the zeolite lives the denitrifiers So the food "nitrate" is brought right to their doorstep. So once the ammonium molecule has been removed by the bacteria, another takes it place and the process repeats itself. But eventually all the pores get blocked and the zeolite can no longer trap ammonium molecules.
Its time to replace it.
With matrix, the story is slightly different. The pore size is perfect for the group of bacteria we want to house. It doesn't trap ammonium its just a really big housing project for bacteria
Its has a tremendous surface area for bacteria to live on and more importantly live in. The difference with this vs zeo is the bacteria have to grab the ammonium as it passes by.. so its not as aggressive as zeo.
Think of matrix as a deep sand bed. The surface houses aerobic bacteria while the inner portion houses the denitrifiers.
So why not just use a deep sandbed? Sandbeds get dirty and cant be cleaned without killing the denitrifiers. Matrix can be cleaned just like zeovit. So no worries that your deep sand bed will go toxic on you.
Now the best part of this is the carbon dosing. Without the carbon dosing, zeovit and matrix wouldn't be able to do what they do. Its the carbon that lets the denitrifiers do their job so well.
This is how a fed denitrifying coil works, except, you dont put the carbon in the coil water it goes directly into the tank water.
Heres an excerpt from a thread I read. Does this sound right to you?
The Saltman
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Then would I go up 1m/week until I saw a decrease in phosphate and nitrate? Also, is it ok to start the carbon doing now even though it will be another 2 weeks until I get the reactor with the matrix stones running?
Paul_PSU
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I have a 100 gal total system volume. I started at .4 ml and then went up .1 ml every week. Continue the go up until you are zero. The slower the better with Vodka dosing. I don't use any stones at all right now. I'm going to see if I can get the results with what I have right now.
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The Saltman
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Do I want to start dosing prodibio biodigest at the beginning of carbon dosing?
Reefflections
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What I'm wondering is using the Matrix along with the Zeo 4 basics?If these stones can have the same effect as for Zeo rocks.Feeding the bacteria right into the reactor.Then pump the stones like zeo does? Which in turns feeds the tank.Just a thought here.
DARKSILENTTYPE
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I am .
DARKSILENTTYPE
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I have a few close ups on file .
DARKSILENTTYPE
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I have lots of pics . The full tanks shots don't do any justice to the colors though .
I like this one the best
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I like this one the best
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stooges3tx
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Sorry but this Zeo stuff seems like a money making thing. Are the products that much different than any of the other comparable items out there? Or is it a cool name from a German company with only the best tank pics of the best high end stuff? Run Zeovit on a tank with basic Digis and normal stuff instead of the good stuff and tell me if they look any better???
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15577241#post15577241 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by stooges3tx
Sorry but this Zeo stuff seems like a money making thing. Are the products that much different than any of the other comparable items out there? Or is it a cool name from a German company with only the best tank pics of the best high end stuff? Run Zeovit on a tank with basic Digis and normal stuff instead of the good stuff and tell me if they look any better???
Zeovit is just another way to lower nutrients in a system. It has certain aspects that make it different from other methods but in the end they all do the same thing.
It might just be a cool name from a german company with only the best tank pics of the best "high end" stuff. The main selling point of zeovit I'm sure is their show tank and their dedicated forum for their product. I'm sure you can achieve those colors with any other method but zeovit clearly works for them.
It might make "normal" corals look better or worse, its all your opinion. An example would be the GARF bonsai, I think it looks amazing in high/medium nutrient systems, but in a low nutrient system it loses that stunning purple body which IMO is why you'd want that particular coral.
reefkeepa14
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Hey guys I been in the hobby for 12 years. But this will be my first system using the Zeo method. With that said, Im going to do a lot more testing than a conventional system. What type test kits do you guys recommend to start this system? Reliable, and accurate. Thanks
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