Zoas and H2O2 dip
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Dapg8gt
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Thanks will do. It was funny how only those ones were affected that way. I did quite a few at that ratio and were all good. Guess they were just more sensitive than the others.
Can I ask why you choose to do freshwater instead of tank water? Have you had better luck that way? I have a Valida frag that came with some briopsis on it and maybe I will try the freshwater route instead. Any reason not to do freshwater on SPS? Thanks
A. Grandis
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Yeah, please don't touch or move them. Keep stability trough the system including the water flow as is now. Let them come out and relax.
They'll probably be fine if they're trying to open already.
Good news!
Gradis.
thats because different species slime different when under attack. the more slime the more time;P
A. Grandis
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Unfortunately we can't collect/keep corals in Hawaii. Therefore my experiences are only with zoas, 'cause that's what I keep on my artificial live rocks. I would think corals would do much better that way also, with less H2O2 in the mix, but never tried out, obviously.
You can actually get the Acro frag out of the water and scrape the Bryopsis off with a sharp knife to eliminate them from the base, I guess. I would avoid the use of H2O2, if possible.
I prefer fresh water with H2O2 because of the small organic content still present in tank/ocean water. I think the zoas take the fresh water+H2O2 just as good, but algae don't. I've tried H2O2 + tank water before but noticed little more bubble reaction too. It could be that H2O2 + fresh water combination needs less H2O2 than otherwise. I don't know. That's just the way I chose to do it.
I'm sure many still use tank water and that's fine also. You just can't overdose the H2O2 and find out the necessary amount to add to the chosen water (fresh or tank).
Grandis.
A. Grandis
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I would go ahead with the water change. Keep the maintenance as usual. That helps the stability as well. I've never had anything wrong with a partial water change done correctly.
Grandis.
A. Grandis
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Yep, the slime protect the corals from the possible negative effects of the H2O2. Some have thicker and more abundant slime release than others. That happens also against the air exposure during low tides for the corals.
It's just like Palythoas spp and Protopalythoas spp versus Zoanthus spp.
Zoanthus spp. release much less slime than Palythoa spp and Protopalythoa spp. So all the Zoanthus spp. are normally more vulnerable to the H2O2 ratio and/or time exposure to H2O2.
Grandis.
debincalif
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Ack! Sorry, no... 4:1 distilled water to peroxide. :lol2:
A. Grandis
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debincalif
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LOL, indeed!:lol:
organism
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I do 50/50 peroxide to tank water dips on all new zoanthids, the thing is you absolutely must put them in decent flow afterwards or you'll have the issues like you had where they don't open up and they can eventually slime up and die off. Put them in higher flow asap and you'll see them get better pretty quickly.
A. Grandis
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A. Grandis
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The times I've tried 50/50 (H2O2 / fresh water) I had problems. Most times the zoas didn't make the pressure. I prefer to do 1 to 4 or 1 to 3 (H2O2 / water).
How did you solve the dino's problem? Most of the time that happens because of the filter you're using for the make up or top off.
Grandis.
How did you solve the dino's problem? Most of the time that happens because of the filter you're using for the make up or top off.
Grandis.
Maybe you didn't see it, but in a previous topic I asked you if that is still the best tool we have for dinos. You work or did work in the industry and it seems crazy that there isn't a better solution out there yet.
organism
code monkey
Didn't catch that one in another thread, but I'm not sure what does or doesn't work for them. There's a few different species and it seems like some react to adding 1ml per 10 gallons of h2o2 per day to the tank, which I just heard about a few weeks ago so I'm not sure if it would've worked on mine. As far as industry solutions no one really cares on the wholesale level, it's impractical to worry about any pests that high up the supply chain so most of the research on those is done by hobbyists...
