So all in all. We changed a lot. Cut vinegar to raise ph. Siphoned daily now. No uneaten food. None. Cut rock back so not to trap food. And make tank more sterile like conditions they were used to we took off our ozone also. Screw it. I run 310 320 orp without it. So I think it was the tank raised fish put into a reef system with extra fed with carbon source bacteria and trapped food non sterile conditions and maybe lower ph than these guys used to. Opened some windows and cut the vinegar. I wished I knew if it was for sure all or any of these or antibiotics that saved them. But this was thought process.
130 X 36 x 36 inbound...any suggestions?
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Seriously if any of you or ted need any of the following I have it ::: plenty of it. Cipro 250. Cipro 500 cipro 750. Chloramphenicol 500mg, levequin 500mg, doxycycline 250, kannamycin , enroflaxen, ,neomycyn ie neoplex, metrodonizole, keflex, I'm about to get some cp also. I have the original uunchelated copper sulfate citic acid and of course furan and sulfa meds from api and seachem. I think the fiancee like sthe leveauin and cipro in house just in case. Lol we have soar throat or infection or anthrax comes back.
Thanks for sharing all of the above. I find it very valuable in that I am hesitant to use strong drugs with young fish and it's good to know what they can and cannot handle. (After reading your posts I won't be using Baytril on the fish even though it really helped my horse!).
Here are some thoughts to throw in with yours; These babies were raised on wild collected plankton for the first month of their lives so should have been exposed to all sorts of things which is always a worry when using wild plankton but should also help in having been exposed. These fish did well on the plankton and just as a precaution I did a prazipro treatment when they moved into their grow out tanks and would no longer be fed wild food. I haven't had any bacterial problems and I find these fish adaptable to temp and salinity changes (within reason since I don't let it swing very much either way). My pH is 8.3 and my tanks are fairly "sterile" in that I don't have live rock but I do have diatoms growing on the dried rubble and I do have amphipods in the tank as a clean up crew. I would think live rock would be beneficial for these fish and wish I could use it.
Thanks again for sharing. I want to be raising well adjusted babies that will do well in their new homes and input like this is very helpful.
Your welcome Karen. Thanks for everything. They are in good shape again. Who knows exactly what it was but it really felt like traditional pseudomas or other bacterial infections. Ie fin tail rot with scale loss. The fish acted much better with kanna and furan or kanna and sulfa with or without metro than they did on cipro or even kanna and neo. The neo and cipro just changed activity as well as biological filter in live rock. I beleive the one most exposed to antibiotics is also the smallest and I wonder if there was a growth stunt for a while. Anyway always a pleasure. P's I did hear from people that small baby fish are in general are sensitive to ph relatively and in reef tank it's just not what we focus on. We spend it all on kh stability. Rufus was going to talk to you about more and basabei for me. Hope all is well. Remind him.
Karen. One more question for you. What temp zone you think these fish thrive in best. I understand adults were caught at 72. But many are found shallower. I am keeping reef system at 76 77 and keep an inline dedicated chiller on gp and peppermint tanks. Gp tanks run 75 76. Pep tank 74 75. That in your comfy zone?? Where is out of zone.?? You think the gp could go in reef tank some day at 77 78.????
humaguy
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2 people that I love dearly...
Rufus' killer Macna presentation with a surprise video of Karen B sharing her masterful work with the Gp Project.
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Rufus' killer Macna presentation with a surprise video of Karen B sharing her masterful work with the Gp Project.
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humaguy
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Yeah, I described in the other place, not here..
One went rogue again...they can really beat each other up...considering an iso box again...
humaguy
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lol, I mentioned to you the temp swings in my gp tank...has gone below 71 and they were fine...hottest is it got was just below 78..
humaguy
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yes, thanks!
In terms of temperature I've been keeping the juvenile personatus at 75F as that was the temp the adults were collected at. I feel they are very adaptable to temp changes and I think they would be fine at 78 especially if acclimated to that temp as youngsters. I'm basing this on what I've heard about C. interrupta adapting to higher tank temps if started at these temps as juveniles and also on my own experience with adult interrupta and the cooler water latezonatus clowns which live in my garage at temps up to 82 in the summer months.
I have not actually tried the personatus at warmer temps because I don't think of them as "my" fish so I'm keeping them at what I think are their optimal conditions.
Ted, Thanks for posting that video of Rufus' talk! I hadn't seen that and he did a great job. So much interesting and entertaining information! And the deep diving videos are incredible. I know I'll be watching it over and over. :spin1:
I have not actually tried the personatus at warmer temps because I don't think of them as "my" fish so I'm keeping them at what I think are their optimal conditions.
Ted, Thanks for posting that video of Rufus' talk! I hadn't seen that and he did a great job. So much interesting and entertaining information! And the deep diving videos are incredible. I know I'll be watching it over and over. :spin1:
humaguy
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Karen,
:rollface: I have already watched it a bunch of times and shared it with my family. I think they enjoyed it as much as I did! They were certainly relieved to hear that my obsession over this project was indeed not my own insanity and that there were other living people involved. Truthfully, they got a kick out of seeing the faces of 2 people that I mention endlessly, respect greatly, and love dearly.
Looking forward to your next endeavor- and fingers crossed it works out!
With much love and gratitude,
Ted
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