14000K HQI 250W Phoenix bulb

Also, I know that I had a KH spike but all my parameters are stable for at least 2 weeks if not 3 weeks and the coral on the picture above just started to die from the tips????!!!!???

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I did not want to stress more my coral but I think that tomorrow, I will but back my old bulb...because I do not know what to do and what to think!!!!

Except for the 10 ppm of nitrate all parameters is the same than the previous year!!!

Do you think that I will lost all my SPS from this KH spike!
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14680078#post14680078 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by agsansoo
I personally will not buy 250w Phoenix 14K ever again. Had little to zero growth and dying sps's. I know other people proclaim their greatness, I'm just not one of them. After changing my 11 month old Phoenix 14K for Reeflux 12k's, instantly my tank started to grow and come alive.

+1 to this. I had sps doing TERRIBLE when i put these bulbs in. Now everything is doing great after i went witha different bulb.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14685538#post14685538 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by agsansoo
Maybe someone running e-ballasts with great results can post their pictures and lighting specifications.

Here's a couple pictures, one was shortly after I put the bulbs up (in fact moved everything over to the tank). 180g tank, 4'x3'x2', 2x250w e-ballast, 5.5hrs a day, 4x54w T5s (UVL Super Actinic, ATi Blue Plus)

November
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February - I was originally showing off the scratch I buffed out :)
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im running 250watt phoenix on magnetic ballasts. My currwent bulbs are 18 months old and I get great growth with them still. Swapping htem out in a week or 2. I also checkedc with a par meter and I am at pretty good par. Im using lumenmax reflectors at 16 inches off the water.
 
I'm in agreement with those that like the Phoenix. I'm getting good growth under mine. Of course it's a 250DE sitting over a 25g puddle, but the ONLY coral that was light-shocked when I first put it on there 2 months ago was a micromussa and an acan. Nearly killed the micromussa. Every acro and monti I had responded well. I was VERY careful to acclimate them to this light though. Started at 10" high and used a sheet of acrylic covered in notebook paper, filled with punch-holes, for a couple days. Every day I'd tear off a 3-4" section of the paper until nothing was left. Now I have the light lowered to around 7" from the water surface.


I upgraded from a cheezy Nova Extreme 4X24 T5


If I had to make a guess on why your corals are suffering, it's precisely what you said--- they slowed growth with the bulb change and alk spiked up. The alk spike is more likely what the issue continues to be, not the lights.


When you changed the lights, it may have shocked them (too much light, a new Phoenix is pretty powerful at PAR production) and also different spectrum--- the Phoenix is WAY bluer than a 10,000K. So, more PAR than the old bulbs, and much more blue.... sounds like light shock.



As for what to do, you can try putting your old bulbs back in and stabilize your alkalinity. Get things looking good again, and slowly swap the bulbs and put some screen/eggcrate over your tank to acclimate them slowly to the new Phoenix.
 
I have no complaints about my 250w DE. Growth could be better, but it's alright.

As far as your problem goes, I'd blame the alkalinity. That being said, it could be the light, did you replace the UV screen after replacing them? If not, you could be toasting your corals with UV
 
I am using a DE Phoenxix 259W 14K bulb over my 75g tank and it does just fine. I probably need a second one for this size tank, but truth be told, I can't complain about slow growth even with only one bulb running....

Of course, I have a custom tank thank is only 36" long, so that probably helps.
 
Not for me. Did not like the color at all. Ended up swapping them with UShio 10K and supplement with VHO actinics. I think the 14K + bulbs look better on smaller tanks, don't know why but it just seems to fit better to the eye.
 
In my experience, you won't recover from an alk spike in a few weeks. It has taken me nearly four months to get back to the kind of growth I was used to seeing.

My guess is that your ca rx had a snafu and spiked your alk way more than you caught it at.

Fwiw, I'm running two 250 phoenix on ice cap ballasts. The bulbs are about a year old, and I will run them until I get the funds to replace them with xm 10k. Probably be around 16-18 months when I replace

good luck with your alkalinity - keep it steady and you will see results - just not overnight.

Hth,
 
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