200G Inwall Fishroom Build
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nickjj
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Finally got the stand done for the sump and the frag tank.
The frag tank is only 48x18x8 and only 30G so the upper part is a bit overkill. The sump is 48x24x24 120G and was bought from another fellow reefer who took down his setup. It's not exactly they way I would have built it but it'll do.
It has three 2" true union valves which I will only being using one for the dart return pump.
Here's some pics
I'm going to have to build a platform for the BK skimmer since the baffles are too tall. What would be the ideal height it should sit in?
Looks like my display tank from Envision might arrive tommorrow.
I'll keep you posted.
The frag tank is only 48x18x8 and only 30G so the upper part is a bit overkill. The sump is 48x24x24 120G and was bought from another fellow reefer who took down his setup. It's not exactly they way I would have built it but it'll do.
It has three 2" true union valves which I will only being using one for the dart return pump.
Here's some pics
I'm going to have to build a platform for the BK skimmer since the baffles are too tall. What would be the ideal height it should sit in?
Looks like my display tank from Envision might arrive tommorrow.
I'll keep you posted.
nickjj
Premium Member
Tank has arrived. It took less than a week to get it across the country and over the border.
James at Envision did an awesome job of packing this thing. I had to take the lid off the crate to just squeeze it into the back of my truck. The half inch just allowed it to get in under the cap.
Some pics of the move into the basement. There a little fuzzy since my son forgot to put the flash on.
Finally in position. Fit like a glove. Everything went extremely well and it was easier to move than the glass 120G tanks I have.
The paper is staying on for a while untill I finish off a few things around the tank. The tank is extremely well made and I'm sure I'll be even more in awe when the paper comes off. Thanks to James at Envision from start to finish with the build for this tank. I highly recommend him to anyone who is considering an acrylic tank. Thanks again.
James at Envision did an awesome job of packing this thing. I had to take the lid off the crate to just squeeze it into the back of my truck. The half inch just allowed it to get in under the cap.
Some pics of the move into the basement. There a little fuzzy since my son forgot to put the flash on.
Finally in position. Fit like a glove. Everything went extremely well and it was easier to move than the glass 120G tanks I have.
The paper is staying on for a while untill I finish off a few things around the tank. The tank is extremely well made and I'm sure I'll be even more in awe when the paper comes off. Thanks to James at Envision from start to finish with the build for this tank. I highly recommend him to anyone who is considering an acrylic tank. Thanks again.
chachijoe75
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I had to do the same thing when my skimmer was in the sump. I used 4" PVC drilling holes on the side of the pipe as foundation and Eggcrate as platform.
Or check this place...
http://www.displaycaseart.com/acrylic-risers.html
Or check this place...
http://www.displaycaseart.com/acrylic-risers.html
Thanks for your advice on my thread about my unlevelled floor. I actually live around Toronto. Your set-up looks great. I got my skimmer from Oakville Reef Gallery too. Flavio and Tom provide great service. I am impressed with your concrete pad. You are very handy unlike me. I just wanted to know how high you made your concrete pad. And do you simply attach wooden frame on the ground and pour the concrete in. Is the wooden frame what is referred to as a re-bar? Can you recommend any specific business that could build me a concrete pad?
nickjj
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Herald - The concrete pad was not really that difficult to make. I had another thread somewhere in the Do it Yourself forum with a few more pics. It only took a couple of evenings.
Basically I built a frame out of 2x3's so that the height was smaller side. Made sure the top of the the wood was flat so I could level out the concrete with another board. the gap between the bottom of the wood and the uneven floor was stuffed with 2" styrofoam and flush with the inner edge of the wood. This will keep the concrete within the wood frame. I used a couple of tap con screws to hold it firmly to the floor.
In my situation since it is already a concrete floor you have to paint a couple of coats of a bonding agent on the existing floor to make sure the new concrete sticks firmly to the old. I didn't use any rebar or mesh in the concrete since the depth only went from 1.5" to 3" at the other end. From what I understand rebar is needed if the concrete is placed on top of a loose foundation. Like a patio when you put the concrete on gravel the rebar adds extra strength to the concrete. I used high strength concrete as well something like 5000lbs per sq". takes about three weeks to fully cure.
Anyway the toughest part was mixing one bag of concrete at at time in a rubbermaid container and then putting it in the frame. Used 5 of them. Level it out with a 2x4 dragged across the top of the frame. Make sure after a few hours you run a knife blade around the inside of the frame to seperate the concrete. Then let it dry a couple of days and remove the frame.
The wood stand is just sitting ont he pad and not fastened to it. Believe me the stand is not going anywhere. It was a ton.
You could do this yourself. I'm sure a contractor would charge you an arm and a leg.
Basically I built a frame out of 2x3's so that the height was smaller side. Made sure the top of the the wood was flat so I could level out the concrete with another board. the gap between the bottom of the wood and the uneven floor was stuffed with 2" styrofoam and flush with the inner edge of the wood. This will keep the concrete within the wood frame. I used a couple of tap con screws to hold it firmly to the floor.
In my situation since it is already a concrete floor you have to paint a couple of coats of a bonding agent on the existing floor to make sure the new concrete sticks firmly to the old. I didn't use any rebar or mesh in the concrete since the depth only went from 1.5" to 3" at the other end. From what I understand rebar is needed if the concrete is placed on top of a loose foundation. Like a patio when you put the concrete on gravel the rebar adds extra strength to the concrete. I used high strength concrete as well something like 5000lbs per sq". takes about three weeks to fully cure.
Anyway the toughest part was mixing one bag of concrete at at time in a rubbermaid container and then putting it in the frame. Used 5 of them. Level it out with a 2x4 dragged across the top of the frame. Make sure after a few hours you run a knife blade around the inside of the frame to seperate the concrete. Then let it dry a couple of days and remove the frame.
The wood stand is just sitting ont he pad and not fastened to it. Believe me the stand is not going anywhere. It was a ton.
You could do this yourself. I'm sure a contractor would charge you an arm and a leg.
nickjj
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Well I'm still waiting for my pump and I want to get a filter sock unit for the overflows to the sump. Probably not for a few weeks. I want to finish the room around the tank before I take any paper off. Don't want to be hammering around a full tank of water.
I finally got my Exhaust fan today. The one with the built in humidity control. I'll post pics later. Took less time to get the tank across the country than a little fan from ebay.
I've learned in this hobby that there is no need to rush. Do it right the first time. I've made every rookie mistake and wasted more $$$ and time.
I finally got my Exhaust fan today. The one with the built in humidity control. I'll post pics later. Took less time to get the tank across the country than a little fan from ebay.
I've learned in this hobby that there is no need to rush. Do it right the first time. I've made every rookie mistake and wasted more $$$ and time.
nickjj
Premium Member
Well work has been keeping me busy so it seems progress has been slow.
Finally got the trim around the tank done so I can focus on the back of the tank. Plumbing will probably start tomorrow.
Here are some pics of the progress. What do you think?
Now with the paper removed. I have a black piece of acrylic that will be mounted on the back of the tank. James did a fantastic job on the corners.
Still have paint and some trim work left to do in the room but that can wait until I get the old tank taken down.
Finally got the trim around the tank done so I can focus on the back of the tank. Plumbing will probably start tomorrow.
Here are some pics of the progress. What do you think?
Now with the paper removed. I have a black piece of acrylic that will be mounted on the back of the tank. James did a fantastic job on the corners.
Still have paint and some trim work left to do in the room but that can wait until I get the old tank taken down.
nickjj
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Looking for advice on fresh water make up storage. I originally intended to use the smaller Brute containers but there is not a lot of height under the stand to see the water level in them from the top.
So I'm thinking of a glass tank. I know everyones evaporation will vary with roughly 350ish Gallons of water, but any guesses at what it could be in a day? This will let be determine how big a tank I can fit with enough water in it so i'm not filling it up everyday.
So I'm thinking of a glass tank. I know everyones evaporation will vary with roughly 350ish Gallons of water, but any guesses at what it could be in a day? This will let be determine how big a tank I can fit with enough water in it so i'm not filling it up everyday.
chachijoe75
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nickjj
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Thanks for all your support 
. I wanted to make sure I share the build since this is how I was able to to benefit from everyone else doing the same. These forums are invaluable when taking on these projects.
Anyway things have been progressing slowly. I did manage to get the overflow plumbing done today. I still need to figure out a way to hang some filter socks on the ends. Got my Dart pump a while back and will start plumbing it tommorrow.
I also built the stand to raise the skimmer up since the baffles are a little too tall. I bought the sump in it's current configuration and didn't want to mess around with changing it.
Here's some pics.
. I wanted to make sure I share the build since this is how I was able to to benefit from everyone else doing the same. These forums are invaluable when taking on these projects.Anyway things have been progressing slowly. I did manage to get the overflow plumbing done today. I still need to figure out a way to hang some filter socks on the ends. Got my Dart pump a while back and will start plumbing it tommorrow.
I also built the stand to raise the skimmer up since the baffles are a little too tall. I bought the sump in it's current configuration and didn't want to mess around with changing it.
Here's some pics.
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