250 watt SE MH lamps compared

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"IceCap electronic is bulb dependant, specially tuned for different bulbs. The result is a high light output watt for watt and a super light ballast, less then 2 pounds. The big drawback is it will be tuned for that particular brand/kelvin."
What exactly does this mean? Will it have to be 'tuned' for a XM10k, and the 're-tuned ' if I switch to Ushio's?
Sorry if this is a dumb ? but I have never seen a thread topic on this before.
 
My personal thoughts are to first pick your bulb/ballast ijn order the the best par rating which should result in the best coral growth. Unfortunatly these butlb will give you more yellow and red than what most people want there reefs to look like, as well as being low in the Blues which are the most helpfull to get most of the florescent corals florescing.

So then the next step would be the addition of actinic or other lighting that is strong in the blue wave lenghts mainly from 385 nm to about 460 nm. There are probably multiple ways of doing this however aticic 03, and 420 bulbs are the most frequently used. But the degree in which the lue spectrom is added comes out to a matter of what cloral one is growing as well as what meets there personal tasts.

You can probably ligh up any three different lighting sources and have 20 people givew you there opinion and some will pick each of the three as the best looking there eye. Welembe everyones eye is basicly sensative to three frequencies (red, bule, and green) However there sensativity varies as well as the the peake frequency that they are most sensative to. Therefore everything does not look the same to everyone.

Therefore my thoughtsw are 1. please the coral your trying to keep, 2. add light to make the balance pleasing to your particular eye..

Dennis
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7394653#post7394653 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Leopardshark
Ti, the super actinic is the regular actinic or the white actinic?
Thanks
BTW, I have 14k 250w hamis (icecap ballast) and 20k radiums 400w (PFOHQI). Almost the same color but the radium is little bit bluer and a lot nicer IMO
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I was referrng to this onehttp://www.petstore.com/ps_ViewItem-idProduct-UF3725.html
 
I had used them. They were white in color however they were not the brightest bulbs. Actually I had a 20K XM on the other half of the tank and that tank looked much brigher even though it was bluer than the coralvue side.

Dennis
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7965910#post7965910 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by fishfeeder
Good bulbs or bad ones? I am looking to purchase these, are they the pink or white ones?

Coralvue Lamps
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I had used them. They were white in color however they were not the brightest bulbs. Actually I had a 20K XM on the other half of the tank and that tank looked much brigher even though it was bluer than the coralvue side.

Dennis
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7965910#post7965910 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by fishfeeder
Good bulbs or bad ones? I am looking to purchase these, are they the pink or white ones?

Coralvue Lamps
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7965910#post7965910 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by fishfeeder
Good bulbs or bad ones? I am looking to purchase these, are they the pink or white ones?

Coralvue Lamps
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The bulbs pictured with the white inner bulb have been recalled because of complaints about them being too pink and coralvue has returned to the clear inners only.
 
The bulbs pictured with the white inner bulb have been recalled because of complaints about them being too pink and coralvue has returned to the clear inners only.
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TwistedTiger,
Where did you hear/see that at? I must have been out of the loop if they were as all 4 of mine are like pictured with the white....Mine are not too pink colored though.
 
highquality
Sorry, dont have any experience with thos bulbs so far. Been using the Reeflux for about the last 2 yrs.
 
Phyxius,

Did you ever do PAR readings on the reeflux bulbs, or know where to find them? I'm pretty sure that the cnidarianreef bulb/ballast page doesn't have those. I was thinking about either getting the Hamilton 14ks or the the Reeflux 12ks, for a more blue appearence, with good growth too. Let me know what you think of them please.
 
ReefWreak,
I never personally did the PAR ratings on the 10k I have. I found them recommended when I was first looking for a 2x250MH setup for my 65g. They were rated pretty high and I started with the CV10k and then switched to the RL10k bulbs shortly after. They are bright white and with VHO actinic supp give me the look I wanted and nice growth too. I got them from Anthony at ReefExotics a sponsor here on RC. I have heard that the par and growth are a little less on the 12K reeflux bulbs from reading on here though. I think there are a few threads in the SPS forums on the bulb.
 
Thanks, I'll look into that. I'm running 2x250w on coralvue electronic ballasts without actinic supplementation, so I'm trying to find the best blue(er) bulb for my setup with a decent enough PAR to get good coral growth. I'm trying not to invest in actinics too because my two Seio 1100s just arn't cutting it I don't think, and I need to get a sump that's larger than 10 gallons.
 
Some key points to remember here.

The higher the K rating the more the light spectrum is shiffted out of the Par range and into the UV range. What some people do is increase wattage when they increase the K rating of the bulb in order to compensate for the loss of PAR.

Many times it is actually cheaper in the long run to run 250 W 10,000K or 6,500K bulbs with atinic suplementation than it is to run 400W bulbs at 15,000K or 20,000K. Remember it is not just the cost of the lkighting fixtures and bulbs but also the electric bill that comes into play here.

Then as a final note many individuals like to increase there lighting gradually. They will have there atinics come on an hour or more before there main lights and also leave them on an hour or more after there main lighing goes out. I have even seen some set ups with three levels of lighting , atinics come on first, 20K florescents come on secod and then 10K hides come on last.

Dennis


<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8700831#post8700831 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ReefWreak
Thanks, I'll look into that. I'm running 2x250w on coralvue electronic ballasts without actinic supplementation, so I'm trying to find the best blue(er) bulb for my setup with a decent enough PAR to get good coral growth. I'm trying not to invest in actinics too because my two Seio 1100s just arn't cutting it I don't think, and I need to get a sump that's larger than 10 gallons.
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8699973#post8699973 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Phyxius
TwistedTiger,
Where did you hear/see that at? I must have been out of the loop if they were as all 4 of mine are like pictured with the white....Mine are not too pink colored though.
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I saw people on the board comparing the color output of the two different bulbs and emailed David at coralvue. That's what he told me in his reply email. He also said that reefexotics.com had exchanged all of the bad experiment bulbs so he should have only the good ones in stock.

We had a production run where we added an aluminum oxide coating to the arc tubes. Some people reported that it gave a pink look to the light with this white coating. We have since stopped using it and only have clear arc tubes on the market. I hope you will give these unique bulbs a chance.



Thanks

David
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Re: reefoptix bulbs

Re: reefoptix bulbs

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8733635#post8733635 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by kodyboy
Any information on the reefoptix bulbs?
Thanks,
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I swapped from DE Phoenix 14k to a reefoptics bulb about a month and a half ago and really like the way my SPS have colored up. I have no experience with the SE bulbs but have seen quite a few tanks using them and the owners were very satisfied. Sanjay has had some of the bulbs for many months but has yet to publish any numbers on them, hopefully we will see some par numbers soon..
 
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