300 gal reef re-do
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sherm71tank
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I have to guess because when I put the meter on it restricts the flow. With the meter on it's right at 100 SCFH without I think 120 SCFH. Using a Rio Hyperflow 32 pump on it (80 watts).
Also I have a suggestion. Put another valve for shutting the air down after your adjustment valve. This way you don't have to readjust the skimmer if you need to turn the air down or off for feeding certain foods, water changes, whatever. Makes your life easier!
Also I have a suggestion. Put another valve for shutting the air down after your adjustment valve. This way you don't have to readjust the skimmer if you need to turn the air down or off for feeding certain foods, water changes, whatever. Makes your life easier!
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pcostanzo
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I got my first skimmate this morning.
After reading the last couple of posts in Thirschman thread about ich I wanted to start up a discussion of different methods all of you use to quarantine incoming, not sick, fish. Do you take preventative measures or wait till you see something? I have used copper and Hypo in the past. Both have been successful. The last fish I treated actually developed ich, a hippo tang, that didn't respond at all to copper. I raised the dose to .35 and still nothing. I removed the copper from the tank and did hypo at 1.009. After the first week it was gone. Kept him there for 6 weeks. Lots of people have so many different methods. Some dip, some don't, some just quarantine without anything and wait to see if the fish is sick, some treat right away even if no symptoms. Lets hear what you guys do.
After reading the last couple of posts in Thirschman thread about ich I wanted to start up a discussion of different methods all of you use to quarantine incoming, not sick, fish. Do you take preventative measures or wait till you see something? I have used copper and Hypo in the past. Both have been successful. The last fish I treated actually developed ich, a hippo tang, that didn't respond at all to copper. I raised the dose to .35 and still nothing. I removed the copper from the tank and did hypo at 1.009. After the first week it was gone. Kept him there for 6 weeks. Lots of people have so many different methods. Some dip, some don't, some just quarantine without anything and wait to see if the fish is sick, some treat right away even if no symptoms. Lets hear what you guys do.
jnarowe
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I QT but have never chemically treated for any disease. I feel that boosting the fish' immune system with high quality food and vitamins is th ebest way to. Even when I have had a bout with ich, I just fed 3 times per day with Garlic Guard, frozen seafood I make myself, nori, and vitamins. I had a PBT that got it fairly bad, but it was the only fish that would not go into my trap. The feeding did the trick, and it has been healthy ever since.
I have had two Nasos die on me within the first week of being in my display and I really don't know what happened with them. They looked healthy but became listless and wouldn't eat.
I have had two Nasos die on me within the first week of being in my display and I really don't know what happened with them. They looked healthy but became listless and wouldn't eat.
pcostanzo
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Thats the good thing about the hypo. It boost the immunity because they don't spend so much energy expelling the salt. The only thing is keeping an eye on the salinity with the refractometer and making sure you lower and raise slowly not to stress the fish. I've had good luck with it and it doesn't kill the biological filter like the copper.
erics3000
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When you say hypo you mean less salinity? I have done that in the past and it has worked for me. I was thinking of doing a big frag order but then it would be tight in a qt tank. But I think it is still better then putting anything in the tank that will affect it.
I put coper in my first tank a few years back it was a fo/lr tank. I wanted to use some of the rock from that tank but from what I read the copper can attach to the rock and release at a later time. Even though it has been about 2 1/2 years and a bunch of water changes later. I really wanted to use some of the rock so it could spread corraline faster. Oh well..
I put coper in my first tank a few years back it was a fo/lr tank. I wanted to use some of the rock from that tank but from what I read the copper can attach to the rock and release at a later time. Even though it has been about 2 1/2 years and a bunch of water changes later. I really wanted to use some of the rock so it could spread corraline faster. Oh well..
jnarowe
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well, I don't know the right term. When you plate something you provide electrical probes and current to attract the metal in suspension onto th eitem you wish to plate.
Check out The Chemistry of Copper Plating. I think in this case you could use your rocks instead of pennies!
Check out The Chemistry of Copper Plating. I think in this case you could use your rocks instead of pennies!
erics3000
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I understand w\hat plating is just never heard of it to remove anything fro from a structure. I think I will just go with all new rock. All this time and money adn I dont want to take any chance. I will do some research ..Thanks J
Paul I new you would figure your skimmer out. Look forward to seeing that thing pull some pop out.
Paul I new you would figure your skimmer out. Look forward to seeing that thing pull some pop out.
pcostanzo
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Eric- yes hypo is lowering the salinity. Only for fish, no inverts or sharks. You do it slowly over a few days and the goal is to bring it down to 1.009. The fish survive fine but the parasites die. You have to keep the salinity there for 4-6 weeks.
I use some rock that was exposed to copper at one time but if your running carbon, if any copper leaches out it will be absorbed by the carbon.
I use some rock that was exposed to copper at one time but if your running carbon, if any copper leaches out it will be absorbed by the carbon.
sherm71tank
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Is there any study you can site for this information? If thats true then great but I don't think carbon absorbs copper effectively.
Seachem makes a filter media called "Cuprisorb" that is supposed to be effective at removing copper and other heavy metals. I am running some right now on my reef tank since for some reason I just started detecting traces of it in my system (I suspect it is from my well water). According to Seachem, it will also continue to absorb copper as it released from the substrate.
If it was me, I'd probably just get new rock and be safe though.
If it was me, I'd probably just get new rock and be safe though.
pcostanzo
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I'm not sure of what studies are out there but I remember on SeaCures instructions and other copper product it's always said when treatment is done to remove by filtering over carbon. I tried finding out some more info but this was the only thing I came up with for now.
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2002-06/dw/index.php
look under Carbon
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2002-06/dw/index.php
look under Carbon
pcostanzo
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This was also interesting on stuff like phos ban
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-11/rhf/index.php
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-11/rhf/index.php
erics3000
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I was thinkingjust to be on the safe side I will use new rock and sand. Decisions suck..Great articles I will read them in dsetail tonight.
I never new well water had copper in it. I use to use tap well water for a couple years for my fo tank. I did dose an old tank that had some of rock with coper as a rookie to help with an ich out break. I tested it a fe months back and the test kit showed it had a little copper. I should test my tap water.
Skimmer looking good
I never new well water had copper in it. I use to use tap well water for a couple years for my fo tank. I did dose an old tank that had some of rock with coper as a rookie to help with an ich out break. I tested it a fe months back and the test kit showed it had a little copper. I should test my tap water.
Skimmer looking good
sherm71tank
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Yeah no kidding! You better wear a gas mask when you clean that thing and don't get any on ya!
pcostanzo
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For the last couple of weeks I have been working on my Kalk, Ca, carbon and phos ban. I liked how Jonathan combined media and Calcium into the same reactor. I was initially only going to put Carbon and Phos ban in one reactor and build separate Ca and Kalk. As I kept planning it I decided to make 1 big one that will handle all. I save space this way since it sits right next to the sump. Here are some pics.
Laying out the acrylic
Gluing up the baffles
Box glued up
Top with bulkheads in place
Bottom sits on a wood base
Eheim 1260 for the Ca loop. The 2 large lines are for Carbon and Phos that are fed by my manifold
Laying out the acrylic
Gluing up the baffles
Box glued up
Top with bulkheads in place
Bottom sits on a wood base
Eheim 1260 for the Ca loop. The 2 large lines are for Carbon and Phos that are fed by my manifold
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