40 breeder ati fixture decisions

chrisscerati

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So originally I thought I put a 36 inch 6 bulb ati powersun on my 40breeder but after reading up it seems like people are suggesting a 6 bulb 24inch fixture 10 inchs off surface should I run with my original plan or would I fry the tank with a 6x36?
 
No need for the 6x39 watt fixture. A 6x24 would support any high light demanding coral no problem. Less power is a plus also. You'd get a lot of light spillage with a 3' fixture also. The 6x39 would better suit a 4' tank. Go with the 24" sunpower.
 
thanks thats what i figured im use to running coralife t5 ho fixtures so this is a pretty big quality difference it seems like a serious upgrade in terms of output
 
I had a 6x39 over my 40 breeder and wouldn't recommend less.. It depends on what you want to keep though! If you want SPS on the ends then go with the 36" version. If you are doing anything else then the the 24 should be fine. Heck you could get away with a 4x24 if you really wanted too... more light is better though!
 
has anyone ever found par readings from an ati t5 setup? the diagram ones that show par and how high it was at specific spots in the tank
 
has anyone ever found par readings from an ati t5 setup? the diagram ones that show par and how high it was at specific spots in the tank
1000 times. Search the t5 Q&A forum. Btw... 6x24 ATI on a 40 breeder with giesemann or ati bulbs would absolutely grow ANYTHING you wanted. Sps on the sand or clams no problem.
 
Like Drake said 6x24 fixture is the way to go. I put a 6x36 inch on mine and way too much light spilliage. 24 inch will do anything you need.
 
I have a Tek 6x39 with Giesemann and ATI bulbs on my 40b and it works great. I can keep a maxima clam at the bottom and it gets plenty of light. I also have a RBTA that's doing really well. I have happy duncans, acans, chalices and galaxea. My xenia loves it too ;P
 
Wow, subjective opinions are readily available and offered like fact in this thread. Kind of like asking if you should buy a Ford or Chevy. Your opinion is probably based on your very limited experience or what your daddy told you to buy.

Yup, T5s from any fixture spill light. So do MH and LEDs. What's not mentioned here is what's spilling from T5s is probably not useful full spectrum light because the spill is from the bulbs on the outside of the fixture and chances are you aren't running all the same bulbs throughout the fixture.

PAR readings, that's another story. Yup, thousand of threads on that too, all subjective and relative to type of bulbs, age of bulbs, age of the ballasts running the bulbs, type of reflectors and whether or not there's an acrylic cover over the bulbs. And then there's relationship of the sensor to the bulb, water clarity, surface movement and the spectral sensitivity of the sensor/meter being used. Add in the experience, or lack of, by the user and the PAR readings you have read about start to become meaningless or at the very least just vast generalizations.

If you want to grow SPS it's pretty hard to have too much light. 39W bulbs are far more efficient than 24W bulbs. Larger T5s would be more efficient in every brand fixture it's just simple physics due to how a florescent bulb works and heat.

To effectively light a tank that will have coral growing up and out to the edges, as corals do, cover the tank with a fixture that doesn't rely on spill. Use a 24W if you're only going to have LPS or other less demanding corals on the sand near the edges. Growing Acros or Montis that will branch out ? Yeah that 39W fixture will make them happy and won't be blocked like the smaller fixture when the corals in the middle of the tank start to get big.

But then this is all just my opinion based on 40+ years in the hobby, subjective like the rest, however it's based on having tried it all.
 
I have personally experienced growing sps with a 24" 6 bulb AT I Sunflower on a 40 breeder without any issues. I don't have 40 years experiance, but I do think that 10 years is plenty to be able to pick a more than adequate light fixture :)
 
I have personally experienced growing sps with a 24" 6 bulb AT I Sunflower on a 40 breeder without any issues. I don't have 40 years experiance, but I do think that 10 years is plenty to be able to pick a more than adequate light fixture :)

any pictures of your tank? im curious about the coral layout you have to see if its similar to my plan
 
I will check and see if I have any. I doubt I do. I am not big on making a tank thread. I will see if I can recover any of my old pics

Basically I kept all my acans and other lps on the edges and bottom. of the tank. Sps were mostly were in the moddle to upper part odlf the tank.
 




I don't have a ton of pics. This is my 57 gallon rimless with the a 24" ATI 6 bulb. This tank was only around 3 months old so the frags only grew a little bit.
 
I don't have 40 years experiance, but I do think that 10 years is plenty to be able to pick a more than adequate light fixture :)

That wasn't my point and your post isn't trying to give a definitive answer. You're just saying what works for you and that's reasonable.

Read the first couple of replies and you'll see what I'm referring to.
 
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