400 Gallon super tank, north of the border!

[Timbor]

Interesting...

Well, that gives me some confidence for trying a TBS tank sometime in the future.

Do you know offhand if any other organisms (other than stony corals) that are included with TBS stuff could be listed under CITES? I'm thinking more along the lines of getting a "package" and all the extra stuff that tends to be included with the rock and sand.

 

[figuerres]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11353280#post11353280 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Timbor
Interesting...

Well, that gives me some confidence for trying a TBS tank sometime in the future.

Do you know offhand if any other organisms (other than stony corals) that are included with TBS stuff could be listed under CITES? I'm thinking more along the lines of getting a "package" and all the extra stuff that tends to be included with the rock and sand.

I'd say ask richard, just drop him an email, I am sure he can give you a good heads up on what his rock has that may be on the list.

also ask him about the fact that his rock is "Cultured" not wild, I would think that also makes a diff in how it wuld be viewed.

 

[Timbor]

Yeah,

It should be viewed differently, since it is cultured, as far as I know there is no protocol in place to exempt "cultured" species. If there were, then I assume Richard would be able to ship to Canada no problem. As it stands, one would need all the right permits to ship to Canada, despite the fact that the rock is cultured.

Hence why TBS has decided not to ship internationally.

But hey, I would be all for some sort of exemption for cultured live rock that contains stony corals. The main question though, is how do you police the cultivators? How do you certify whether an unscrupulous dealer has cultivated rock or "borrowed" some from elsewhere in order to increase supply/quality?

Kinda off topic, but good to discuss!

Tim

 

[Untamed12]

...and yet you can go to any aquarium shop and purchase live rock that has entered the country from all over the place. Is any of this LR aquacultured? I don't think so.

So my conclusion was that the more environmentally responsible product can't officially come into the country, yet it is OK to bring in stuff they rip from the reefs in Vaanuatu or Fiji.

 

[Timbor]

Agreed!

Hopefully in the future they will change the legislation to make the hobby a bit more reef-friendly in this regard.

 

[Untamed12]

http://brads-aquarium.viewnetcam.com:50000

 

[chriscobb]

Very cool setup!!!!!

 

[figuerres]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11357297#post11357297 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Timbor
Agreed!

Hopefully in the future they will change the legislation to make the hobby a bit more reef-friendly in this regard.

I guess the hobby needs some "Lobbiests" (sp?)
to talk to the lawmakers and agencies to "educate" them about what many of us want to do and what we want to promote etc...

 

[conjuay]

ever ID that one coral?

ever ID that one coral?

I spent my entire lunch break trying to find out if that mystery Gorgonian was ever named. I also ended up with one in my TBS rock and believed it hadn't survived.
We left it sit in the tank because it looked so interesting, even though it was "DEAD".

It took two months, but I'm seeing little pink polyps!
It LIVES!!!!

Was anyone able to ID it?

 

[Untamed12]

Somebody identified that coral on my tank build thread....but as that thread is now 45+ pages long, I can't find the reference!

Mine died back to the rock due to attack by hair algae. It is now regrowing. I expect it might be a few years before it reaches the size it was.

 

[conjuay]

Rebound!

Rebound!

yes, after looking like a dead underwater bonsai, mine suddenly started the long trip back!

I'm very new to this hobby, and this is one of the few things that has turned from misfortune and inexperience to "YEAH! Look at this!"

And tomorrow I go to my first reef club meeting... I'm pumped.

 

[dlrepmn]

You guys are getting a little carried away.

You guys are getting a little carried away.

This is one of the most extreme well engineered tanks I have ever seen. Great job! You just spent a lot of money for me in my future home that I may have to design around a similar tank.

Love the bar built around the tank. Great look and functional too.

Here is a link to my uncle's tank in his office in our shop.

Pure examples that you can really go over the top thinking this stuff out.

http://icemansreef.com/index2.php

The site is not finished yet, but check out the construction. Just as outrageous. There are 6 fully grown men in the tank similar to your wife. 1400 gallons. The coolest part is the creeper fixed on rails for maintenance and no lie (9) 450 W metal halides. I lost count on the other light bulbs. Very similar design on the light fixtures that raise up on an electric hoist.

He is sending me a big box of stony frags. On top of what Richard sent me, I will have a full tank in a short period of time.

Guy's like you give the rest of us goals.

Scott

 

[Untamed12]

Thanks, I'm glad you like my stuff!

Yes, that is certainly a stunning tank. You end up with design similarities just by thinking maintenence through carefully. Things like the light lifters...you have to come up with some sort of solution to deal with that or it will kill you later.

My live rock is nicer....(wink)

 

[LoneRanger]

wow, I read through the entire thread (42+ pages!), and have e-mailed TBS a few times tonight!

I am still trying to find someone to price out an 8'x30"x12" tank for my new home. I only have a quote from 1 company so far.

your tank is great!

L.R.

 

[Untamed12]

96"x 30" x 12"? That's either a grow-out tray...or a flat panel aquarium! What is leading you to that tank size?

 

[LoneRanger]

should have read 96"x31"x24" 12" was a typo-


tank should be done in a few weeks! now we have to wait for the house to get finished! LOL


L.R.

 

[Reefman79]

WOW.

 

[Untamed12]

I thought the TBS group might like to see updated photos of how things are looking in this tank. At one year old, there is a lot of room for the corals to grow into, but I think things are looking pretty good so far.

The tank actually offers viewing from almost all 4 sides. Here is a sampling of views.

 

[Untamed12]

Wow..things have really changed since this last photo! Here's a few updated shots.

Also...tank has received "tank of the month" honours on Canreef. TBS rock is specifically mentioned in the writeup.

http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=46222

 

[buccard]

WOW!!!Awesome