Mandarins, Black & white ocileris clowns, anthias & orange spot gobies.
430gal., L-shaped display
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"Umm fish?"
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Marcy--Thanks! 55 in Austin. That is cold! 
The snow here's sticking tonight. Supposed to get down to 17F tonight and only 31F as a high for tomorrow. Given that I haven't left the house in two days (flu's up again), it's not that huge a burden for me. But, I'm glad you're enjoying my silly little thread....
Greg--Congratulations! When and where do your anthias spawn, if I may ask? The lyretail trio I added 2-3 weeks ago are already starting to get that white on the underbelly and doing some dances, so I'm starting to keep a close eye on them.
The snow here's sticking tonight. Supposed to get down to 17F tonight and only 31F as a high for tomorrow. Given that I haven't left the house in two days (flu's up again), it's not that huge a burden for me. But, I'm glad you're enjoying my silly little thread....Greg--Congratulations! When and where do your anthias spawn, if I may ask? The lyretail trio I added 2-3 weeks ago are already starting to get that white on the underbelly and doing some dances, so I'm starting to keep a close eye on them.
ReefPug
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17 degrees!:eek2: I can't imagine....snow sticks to the ground???!!:lolspin: The H1N1 has been really bad here lately...tents set up in front of the children's hospitals with 250 - 400 new cases a day. Keeping my fingers crossed since it has been pretty mild (3 to 4 day flu versus 5 to 6 days for the regular seasonal flu).
I have been working on a fish list for my new 185 and your thread has really inspired me to keep some pairs. Even though I am very far away from rearing anything. There are so many possibilities!
I have been working on a fish list for my new 185 and your thread has really inspired me to keep some pairs. Even though I am very far away from rearing anything. There are so many possibilities!
"Umm fish?"
Premium Member
And there go the tomato plants. 
Next year,my beauties, next year. I have to admit, I was getting pretty sick of eating tomatoes by the end, but I'll be dying for them in a month or two.
Ah, the flu. Well, the last time I had it this year ( :furious: ) was pretty mild. This time it's much worse. My lovely bride is up over a week already and still >100 last night.
I'm feeling pretty far away from rearing anything at the moment, either. Ugh. I got a new T-Iso starter this week--liquid this time--so we'll see how that goes. Otherwise, I've been absolutely unable to stay awake long enough or feel good enough to try to catch any eggs/larvae. Too bad, too, 'cause the yellowhead may have released last night and the gobies hatched the night before (and promptly made a new nest yesterday).
But I'd love to hear your stock list, if you have time....
Next year,my beauties, next year. I have to admit, I was getting pretty sick of eating tomatoes by the end, but I'll be dying for them in a month or two.Ah, the flu. Well, the last time I had it this year ( :furious: ) was pretty mild. This time it's much worse. My lovely bride is up over a week already and still >100 last night.
I'm feeling pretty far away from rearing anything at the moment, either. Ugh. I got a new T-Iso starter this week--liquid this time--so we'll see how that goes. Otherwise, I've been absolutely unable to stay awake long enough or feel good enough to try to catch any eggs/larvae. Too bad, too, 'cause the yellowhead may have released last night and the gobies hatched the night before (and promptly made a new nest yesterday).
But I'd love to hear your stock list, if you have time....
I love all teh talk about fish pairing, great stuff. I have a pair of Bangaiis that were spawning regularly from teh start of this year. They stopped when I redid my aquascape in May though. However I have 4 babies alive in the tank, getting pretty big now and a couple in the overflows. Hopefully they'll spawn again.
My Clarkii pair were paired for 3 years but I lost the male (it jumped). I bought a replacement and the female accepted him right away.
I have tha makings of a pair of Foxface Rabbitfish. They went through 7 weeks QT together where the big one would pick on teh little one a bit but they'd still hang out together. Now in the DT they are always together.
Have 2 Emperor Angels in QT - be interesting to see how that works out.
Now a few questions. I also have 2 Lyretails left from a group of 5. I lost them all to jumping. I have net covers now - lesson learned. If I introduce another 3 will they incorporate into a harem again? But kind of worried that one may change male in QT.
You are the only person I know to have attemped a harem of Royal Grammas - how is it working out? My next batch is probably going to be 5-7 Royal Grammas. I tried once before a few years back but lost them all in QT (poor water quality).
And related to that how do your Orchid Dotties get on with the Grammas?
And with Orchid Dotties is teh trick just to get one smaller than the other? Same question with sixline wrasses.
Thank you, sir!
My Clarkii pair were paired for 3 years but I lost the male (it jumped). I bought a replacement and the female accepted him right away.
I have tha makings of a pair of Foxface Rabbitfish. They went through 7 weeks QT together where the big one would pick on teh little one a bit but they'd still hang out together. Now in the DT they are always together.
Have 2 Emperor Angels in QT - be interesting to see how that works out.
Now a few questions. I also have 2 Lyretails left from a group of 5. I lost them all to jumping. I have net covers now - lesson learned. If I introduce another 3 will they incorporate into a harem again? But kind of worried that one may change male in QT.
You are the only person I know to have attemped a harem of Royal Grammas - how is it working out? My next batch is probably going to be 5-7 Royal Grammas. I tried once before a few years back but lost them all in QT (poor water quality).
And related to that how do your Orchid Dotties get on with the Grammas?
And with Orchid Dotties is teh trick just to get one smaller than the other? Same question with sixline wrasses.
Thank you, sir!
"Umm fish?"
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Congratulations on the Banggais! As they get bigger you'll need to separate them from the parents or the parents will kill them as they start to hit sexual maturity. You know, I say that, but the local aquarium has a tank with what must be 100 Banggais in it. But they all spend all their time deep in the branches of large corals where the bigger ones can't get to them.
See? Freakin' clownfish. Something similar always happens to me.
I have a two-bar pair that act very similarly. It's funny how they line their bars up in attempts at camouflage and to break up their outlines. Very cool.
Good luck with the emperors. That would be a sight to see!
They should harem up. The sex change is always a worry. Maybe QT them each separately?
They are doing fine. It looks like I wound up with two males and three females based on size. They normally stick together in one end of the tank, but then separate out when it's time for courtship.
They ignore each other, which was a big surprise to me. The female dotty lives in a rock near where the grammas normally stay. No issues at all.
Yes, if you get one small enough to still be a juvenile. So, really small. That's how I paired the sixlines. The dottys were captive-bred and both still juveniles when I got them. They were the first fish to spawn in my tank, though.
You're welcome!
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See? Freakin' clownfish. Something similar always happens to me.
I have a two-bar pair that act very similarly. It's funny how they line their bars up in attempts at camouflage and to break up their outlines. Very cool.
Good luck with the emperors. That would be a sight to see!
They should harem up. The sex change is always a worry. Maybe QT them each separately?
They are doing fine. It looks like I wound up with two males and three females based on size. They normally stick together in one end of the tank, but then separate out when it's time for courtship.
They ignore each other, which was a big surprise to me. The female dotty lives in a rock near where the grammas normally stay. No issues at all.
Yes, if you get one small enough to still be a juvenile. So, really small. That's how I paired the sixlines. The dottys were captive-bred and both still juveniles when I got them. They were the first fish to spawn in my tank, though.
You're welcome!
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OT: Snow pictures.
"Umm fish?"
Premium Member
Oh, murf. Sorry. I hate ice.
Thanks, Marc.
And, because I'm tired of being sick, I started messing around with my new stage micrometer.
Sixline eggs:
May, 720 microns
August, 770 microns
I just read an interesting fact. An eye of a needle is around 749 microns wide.
Thanks, Marc.
And, because I'm tired of being sick, I started messing around with my new stage micrometer.
Sixline eggs:
May, 720 microns
August, 770 microns
I just read an interesting fact. An eye of a needle is around 749 microns wide.
Western_reefer
Reef keeper
Very nice pictures! How on earth do you collect the eggs when they are SOOOO tiny?! lol
ReefPug
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otential Fish List....My goal is to have a fairly peaceful tank (corals are my first love LPS & SPS) with color and movement throughout. 185 gal 60x30x24
1 Powder Blue Tang or Purple Tang (One or the other since I think the tank is not big enough to handle both long term.)
3-5 Lyretail Anthias
One-Spot Foxface
Mystery Wrasse
Golden Rhomboidalis Wrasse
Lineatus Fairy Wrasse
McCoskers Flasher Wrasse
Six Line Wrasse
Yellow Candy Hogfish
Pacific Redstripe Hogfish
Dracula Goby
Sleeper Gold Head Goby
Blue Spot Jawfish
Helfrichi Firefish
Flame Hawkfish (Maybe not because I like shrimp)
Coral Beauty Angelfish (Maybe not because they can nip corals)
Pair of Clownfish - picassos possibly
Pair of Green Mandarin (Further down the line once the tank can support them)
Pair of Starry Blennies
I currently have a 40 gal tank with a Gold Stripe Maroon (think that this one may go with the tank to my sister) and a Six Line Wrasse who would be the only keeper into the new tank. I would like to know which would be the best or easiest to pair up. This is pretty much the list of things that I like and will probably get pared down some more.....decisions, decisions. I believe that you should feed your fish (higher nutrient system) so I have planned the system to be able to handle this as well.
otential Fish List....My goal is to have a fairly peaceful tank (corals are my first love LPS & SPS) with color and movement throughout. 185 gal 60x30x241 Powder Blue Tang or Purple Tang (One or the other since I think the tank is not big enough to handle both long term.)
3-5 Lyretail Anthias
One-Spot Foxface
Mystery Wrasse
Golden Rhomboidalis Wrasse
Lineatus Fairy Wrasse
McCoskers Flasher Wrasse
Six Line Wrasse
Yellow Candy Hogfish
Pacific Redstripe Hogfish
Dracula Goby
Sleeper Gold Head Goby
Blue Spot Jawfish
Helfrichi Firefish
Flame Hawkfish (Maybe not because I like shrimp)
Coral Beauty Angelfish (Maybe not because they can nip corals)
Pair of Clownfish - picassos possibly
Pair of Green Mandarin (Further down the line once the tank can support them)
Pair of Starry Blennies
I currently have a 40 gal tank with a Gold Stripe Maroon (think that this one may go with the tank to my sister) and a Six Line Wrasse who would be the only keeper into the new tank. I would like to know which would be the best or easiest to pair up. This is pretty much the list of things that I like and will probably get pared down some more.....decisions, decisions. I believe that you should feed your fish (higher nutrient system) so I have planned the system to be able to handle this as well.
MrineLfRlz
Active member
GREAT WORK!
took me awhile but ive read through alot of your threads
can you post some close up angles(front, back, side etc..) of your DT as of today and some different shots of your fish room as it is today?
this is really interesting
have you thought about posting videos on here of your setups?
once again GREAT WORK!
took me awhile but ive read through alot of your threads
can you post some close up angles(front, back, side etc..) of your DT as of today and some different shots of your fish room as it is today?
this is really interesting
have you thought about posting videos on here of your setups?
once again GREAT WORK!
"Umm fish?"
Premium Member
Moses--
Thank you. With an even smaller net.
Western--
I think you can pretty much pair anything, though some fish aren't terribly nice to their partners (cough, cough, dottybacks....). The starry blennies are probably pretty hard to pair, as they are supposed to have fixed sexes and I haven't found a way to tell them apart yet. The sixline should be easy. You've had it a long time and you can assume that it's terminal male. Get a tiny, tiny juvenile and you should be good to go.
Laurence--
Good. Good luck with them!
Murf--
Thanks. I've always wanted to keep angels, but I like the larger-polyped corals too much.
MrineLfRiz--
Thanks!
Not today. I've been sick for a couple of weeks and am only just now feeling well enough to start scraping glass again and I gave up, winded, after only doing about a foot of the glass yesterday. We are still (foolishly) planning a Halloween party for my kiddo and then I'm hosting a local meeting early next month, so I should have some good opportunities for photos soon. I need to clean the house!
The display is not looking great at the moment. I've had lots of tank fluctuations (heat, pH, salinity, etc.) and the tougher-to-keep corals haven't fared well. I was also experimenting with some non-photosynthetic gorgonians and only one is really doing well. The Euphyllias and brain corals seem to be doing fine, though. But the point is that the tank is not at it's most photogenic right now. Coralline has covered about 40% of the tank now, though.
Thank you. With an even smaller net.
Western--
I think you can pretty much pair anything, though some fish aren't terribly nice to their partners (cough, cough, dottybacks....). The starry blennies are probably pretty hard to pair, as they are supposed to have fixed sexes and I haven't found a way to tell them apart yet. The sixline should be easy. You've had it a long time and you can assume that it's terminal male. Get a tiny, tiny juvenile and you should be good to go.
Laurence--
Good. Good luck with them!
Murf--
Thanks. I've always wanted to keep angels, but I like the larger-polyped corals too much.
MrineLfRiz--
Thanks!
Not today. I've been sick for a couple of weeks and am only just now feeling well enough to start scraping glass again and I gave up, winded, after only doing about a foot of the glass yesterday. We are still (foolishly) planning a Halloween party for my kiddo and then I'm hosting a local meeting early next month, so I should have some good opportunities for photos soon. I need to clean the house!
The display is not looking great at the moment. I've had lots of tank fluctuations (heat, pH, salinity, etc.) and the tougher-to-keep corals haven't fared well. I was also experimenting with some non-photosynthetic gorgonians and only one is really doing well. The Euphyllias and brain corals seem to be doing fine, though. But the point is that the tank is not at it's most photogenic right now. Coralline has covered about 40% of the tank now, though.
"Umm fish?"
Premium Member
So, I wandered into a fish store where I had some credits stored up and found this cool little guy. I guess it's called a "walking dendro" and lives in association with a worm symbiont that'll move the coral around all over the place and dig it into the sand bed. Well, I'm a sucker for interesting symbiosis stories as well as the way it looks like a small brain coral, so I snapped it up.
I'm really interested in these little structures:
I'm really interested in these little structures:
"Umm fish?"
Premium Member
Oh, here's some back story:
http://www.reefbuilders.com/2009/10...o-coral-imported-time-sea-dwelling-creatures/
http://www.reefbuilders.com/2009/10...o-coral-imported-time-sea-dwelling-creatures/
driftin
New member
Just got an email from one of our LFS's that they have some in too. I don't think I have enough room on my sandbed that there wouldn't be some coral warfare going on within a day or two... I'd be curious how much it moves around. And if you can determine what the worm eats...
"Umm fish?"
Premium Member
They're pretty small, but are supposed to get up to about 30 heads. It's a good question what the worm eats. I haven't seen it yet, but it's opening is on the bottom of the coral skeleton. My hope would be for a sandbed cleaner, but we'll see.
EnglishRebel
Retired Rebel Reefer
Keep us posted Andy as this seems like an interesting addition.
