5 months algae

If you have PO4 issues but are color blind you could pick up a Hanna phosphate checker that will give you a digital reading. They aren't expensive and it will help you get a handle on the PO4. You mentioned that you have a reactor, but were running carbon only in it? Carbon will remove impurities but you need to run GFO in it to remove phosphate.

If you have good test kits you can perform the tests, take a picture of the results next to the card, and post it up. We'll gladly read them for you whenever you'd like to test. :)

The Hanna has been useless for me. I have been fighting hair algae for over a year now (a lyngbya species I think) and keeping phosphate at zero via the phosphorus meter has done nothing. Keeps the sps corals pale and kills macro though.

I have tried absolutely everything that normally kills cyano or hair algae with no luck. Massive amounts of gfo (zero effect), carbon dosing (some effect) lights out, scrubbing, snails (they would rather starve to death than eat it, same with the yellow tang). Only things that eat it are urchins. Last on the list is an ATS or hydrogen peroxide.
 
Like I said I never had this issue before so I would rather not buy an algae scrubber. I will give it a few more weeks and see what happens.

I guess I am looking for anyone that is seeing something I am missing.
Algae scrubbers will pull out those nutrients that you dont think are in the tank. I always thought I ran a very low nutrient system but the growth im getting on this proved me wrong
 
I killed all the live rock due to an algae issue I was having and it was just spreading. So I chipped off all the super glue epoxy and soaked in fresh water for a week. Then I baked the rock in the oven. Pressure washed it.

That's your problem. If you kill the rock, everything dead is still in it and decomposing.
 
While I assumed some would be left on the rock I doubt enough to keep this outbreak going for months on end. The rock was cleaned dried cleaned dried, cleaned, baked dried and left for over a week. This was a month long process not something that happened overnight to kill everything and put back in the tank. If there was that much die off still on the rock I would get spike readings, and unable to keep fish in the tank.

This is not the case.

Another local reefer started having the same problem on his tank just about the same time I started with my issue. We talked and after comparing notes, we both used Phyto from the same source that was homegrown.
All well we got plenty of time, next water change we are going to help each other out and brush off the rocks while the other one sucks the algae out
 
I have tried absolutely everything that normally kills cyano or hair algae with no luck. Massive amounts of gfo (zero effect), carbon dosing (some effect) lights out, scrubbing, snails (they would rather starve to death than eat it, same with the yellow tang). Only things that eat it are urchins. Last on the list is an ATS or hydrogen peroxide.

Sounds like what I am going through and what I have. I even took a couple of tangs off a guy because he said they were algae eating machines. YEAH RIGHT!

urchins eat it but being 300 gallons and only two urchins they do not keep up with it. What is hydrogen peroxide for?

Honestly from everything I am reading I am about to take all the rock out of the tank again. Then use the old bleach and acid bath in the backyard. At least then I will know everything is off the rock, whatever dies is ate by the acid and I am a true fresh start.

With spring break coming I just might have some time on my hands.
 
Actually that would be very extreme from using too much acid. Some of my Marco rock has been through 4 baths and it is still there, you would never know it was done. It can make the rock lighter, and that is a good thing and it will remove the po4 laden outer layer. It does work, and it works very well.
 
as the algae grows more and more I think this will be the way to go. I am tired of it and I cannot find anyone that was successful in getting it out of their system short of a few years without spending more and more money.

Bleach and Acid for me.
 
I too am fighting a hair algae and cyano battle that likely is the result of old rock that wasn't cleaned properly when the tank was down for a couple of years. Like you, I have unsuccessfully tried to fight it with gfo, scrubbing the rock with hydrogen peroxide, dosing the tank with hydrogen peroxide, dosing vodka, biopellets, water changes, chaeto, other macro algae, etc.

Nothing solved the problem, so I am going to buy some new rock (1/3 of amount in the tank), acid wash or lanthanum chloride it, and then rotate the rest of my rock through the same process. Hopefully, that will eliminate the excess nutrients.
 
If you rotate the new rock with your old rock the spores from the algae can carry over to the new rock.

In your case might be best to buy the new rock, bleach, acid, and cycle in different tub for 6 months. If you have some friends around you that have clean cycled rock ask to borrow a piece for your cycle, or you might want to look at some quality bacteria to add to your cycle tub.

I am looking at doing this and in the mean time just set up fresh water tank. I don't think I can handle another 6 months worth of staring at rock.
 
I think the algae is always going to be there, so I was hoping that swapping out the rock in cycles would get rid of enough nutrients that I could control the algae. I think I will start a thread in the Reef Discussion area to see what others have done.
 
I think the algae is always going to be there, so I was hoping that swapping out the rock in cycles would get rid of enough nutrients that I could control the algae. I think I will start a thread in the Reef Discussion area to see what others have done.

I'd think that if you did this any phosphate in the tank would bind to the new clean rock while you were doing the other two batches and then leach back in later. You could use GFO to get the last of it but if you take that approach just expect this to happen so you don't think it didn't work right before you actually get to the finish line
 
You 'returned' 7 mollies covered in ich? Seriously???

My LFS will not accept ANY returns on livestock at all for any reason. Now I know why...

Yes the store told me to bring them back.
1. they wanted to see exactly what was wrong.
2. they were loaners to cycle the tank
3. I am a good customer.
 
Go Bio-Pellets seem to be feeding the algae more than helping it.

These last few weeks I have been hoping that it would get better. With Spring Break coming up I have decided to take the tank down, bleach and acid bath the rock. Then I will cycle the rock in a tub in the shed.

My tank will go to fresh water for now. I will try to get back into saltwater in a year or two. By then the rocks should be ready for the tank and I will be successful.

I just do not have the time right now to keep having these issues.

Thanks for all your help
 
I think the algae is always going to be there, so I was hoping that swapping out the rock in cycles would get rid of enough nutrients that I could control the algae. I think I will start a thread in the Reef Discussion area to see what others have done.


Just search it, there is a lot of information what they have done and that was the point of this thread. Not a lot of people posted what they have done, but those who did were helpful in my education.
 
I had the same problem with bad live rock. I removed the rock, placed it in a plastic trashcan and added a couple cups of vodka/vinegar. yes a couple of cups :eek2:

The next day I had huge mats of bacterial slime all over the rocks. I removed the rocks and washed them off with RO/DI water daily. After a week of this, the the rocks went back into the tank and never grew algea again.

I also used a powehead and airstone.
Basically i just sped up the carbon dosing process.
 
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Rocks are bleaching now after this I will power wash them and see if local store wanted to buy them from me. I am now out of the hobby.
 
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