55 gallon agressive?? what do you think?

fedukeford

fedukeford

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im thinking of putting everything in my 55 gallon reef, into th soon to be filled 125 gallon, and im thinking of re starting my 55 gallon , and making it an agressive tank, i was thinking about this list:
fu man chu lion fish
bluespot puffer (or a valentini puffer)
snowflake eel
flame angle (or other dwarf angle)
fairy wrasse ( a velvet, or carpenters)

what do you guys think??

my filtration is a fluval 404, and a amiracle mini quad skimmer rated for 100 gallons
 
I don't know, um... you'll shoot your eye out? heh..

Um, don't rush stuff into the 125 gallon too fast... small changes slowly. You could probably move your stuff over into the 125 over a couple months or so. ...?
I've never kept/desired an aggressive tank so that's all I can say. :)
 
honestly to me, it doesnt really look like an aggresive list.. i'd go for a different eel though..
 
You could use an Picasso trigger. They can be aggressive. and when it gets big it has shoulders!!!!!!!!
 
A Picasso trigger gets too big for a 55 gallon tank. Jordan your fish list looks good. If that is what you want go for it. I dislike eels. Practice patience with the switch over. Good luck...
 
I wouldn't exactly call that an agressive list either. I don't see too many issues other than the eel and lion may be tough to acclimate to new surroundings and get to eat right away, so patience and persistance is gonna help there. I would spend a few more bucks and buy a better skimmer. The bioload will eventually be too much for it. You may as well plan for it now.
 
I agree with coralnut. It looks good but it's a lot of bioload for a 55. I've had problems with fluvals and nitrates in the past. It would probably work better if you pulled the foam out and maximized the ceramic "rocks" or added a tray of live rock rubble. That helped me with my old trigger tank.

Also, with the wrasse and eel you should make sure that the tank has a good lid to prevent carpet surfing.
 
Good point about the "surfin' safari". In a FOWLR, eggcrate cut to size may serve best. Lord knows it's saved the rest of my Anthias. One lucky bugger jumped through the 6 inch space between lights and water on my 120, over a 2 foot gap between tanks, and through the 10 inch gap between the lights and water on my 125. I would've loved to see the instant replay on that one!
 
ok mabey ill rethink it , from what you guys are saying i might not want to do the agressive, but i want to do somehting diff. like i just dont want 2 normal reef tanks, i want one of them to be really different in some way..... any suggestions?
 
Here's a few.

SW:
Seagrass display,
tidal estuary / mangroves
caribbean anemone display
seahorses / pipefish
Tidepool

FW:
Planted Tank Types
Discus
Asian river
SA tetras
Australian Rainbows

FW-Other:
Mbuna
Small CA Cichlids
Polypterus display
 
I don't think It's a bad mix for a fowlr. It's just that you called them aggressive, and by that standard, they just aren't the most aggressive fish you can keep. It's just that eels and lions can take some work to get to eat, and taking on both at the same time may be something to think over. The bigger skimmer is just a reality of keeping larger fish in larger tanks. It's just a piece of advice to buy a better skimmer than what you have planned so you don't wind up with no choice but to upgrade. You'll feel like you wasted the money when you try to sell that skimmer.

One of the toughest parts of this hobby to grasp is that every tank has special needs that don't stay the same forever. So you'd be best served by just thinking ahead for those needs.
 
Just a suggestion, stay away from Fu-manchu lionfish. I have kept a few and have never seen one live for a reasonable amount of time in captivity. They all slowly starve to death, which made me believe they were cyanide caught since they are primarily harvested in the Phillippines.

Otherwise, aggressive saltwater tanks rock. Either a FOWLR or a refugium/mushroom tank with aggressives is just incredible to watch, especially with a small eel or 2.
 
I'm not a puffer expert, so I can't comment on your choice of puffers at all. The flame angel can be a problem, but I think most will tell you they leave corals be. If the puffer doesn't pose a risk, you should be able to maintain some soft corals, given that you keep up with water changes due to the bioload will eventually become.
 
Absolutely. I wouldn't recommend a puffer at all, but there are some triggers you can keep with corals, as well as lionfish, scorpion fish, leaf fish, and eels. I would recommend also that you check which eels and triggers you mix as triggers sometimes go after eels. you should be fine as far as other corals are concerned. As far as flame angels are concerned, I have one in a mixed reef with no problems after the 2 years in my posession. Others may say different, but not in my experience.
 
My vote would be to consider a Pipefish/seahorse with lots of macro algae and some simple soft corals. They are cool to watch. In fact I am setting up one right now. If you wanted to go FW Planted Discus tanks are stunning. I am going to set my 55 Discus back up one of these days. Also I have seen many people house Huma Huma Triggers with soft corals. The Humas are quite striking they certainly have plenty of personality. My wife has been bugging me to get one for my reef....Not going to happen!.

Scott
 
but the problem with seahorses is most of them are in the $80 reange right?? so being 13 years old, it would be really bad if i bought a couple sea horses, and i couldnt keep them alive, so there goes like 3 months allowence, i think im probley just going to keep my 55 gallon reff, and still make the 125 gallon a reef, mabey have a few odd fish in there or sumthing like that
 
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