600 gallon display

[jnarowe]

Based on the room design you may have some options. That's a fairly large amount of water in a relatively tight space. Some possible ideas:

1. Move the return to a different room.
2. Cover the tank with a canopy that is vented to the outside.
3. Dehumidify the room.
4. Dehumidify the whole house.
5. Install a split dedicated to that room.

Because you have the windows too, you will experience some condensation on them and the walls. I really encourage you to give this some serious thought and research to avoid ruining your house. And BTW, limiting evap on the system is not always a good thing, especially if you are dosing kalk wasser. using a chiller would help of course, or even a ground loop.

This is a very serious issue with large displays, and especially ones with high surface area.

 

[CaptiveReefer03]

ya i already have the chiller and was planning on some evaporation because I deal with it on my 360 now and add about 5 gallons every 3rd day to accout for this.

 

[jnarowe]

Well, I am concerned that room will be a sweat box, but my frame of reference is a bit different since I don't use a chiller.

 

[CaptiveReefer03]

just curious but how big of a room do you feel I should have had for my system? I have looked over your 1000 gal page and am impressed by the system so I know I have some to learn still but my 360 was very sucessful in its hayday before I started weeding things out for the change over to the new system and it was in a smaller room then this which was inside the main house where in my house now it is isolated in its own room and the room size is almost double..

 

[jnarowe]

yeah, don't take my comments as criticism. I am not there to judge in person. In fact I really like your tank and how you are installing it with it being viewable from your bedroom. That is way cool. I just saw the heater return above the tank and figured I should chime in. My situation is much different in that my tank room is sealed off from the house entirely, so I don't have to worry about condensation except for the wear and tear/corrosion on equipment. I guess I may have written that strange, but it's not really the size of the room that matters, but how it is ventilated. So many factors like ambient temp. and humidity come into play.

Anyway, not judging the install in any way. Just trying to help when I can, and it struck me that IME, allowing the salt air to migrate through your central house system would probably cause some damage.

 

[CaptiveReefer03]

J-

No offense taken I was just asking the quesiton because its hard when Im doubling the size of the system Im use to be sure Ive got all my ducks in a row its why I asked... Dealing with large systems like ours Im never certain im getting everything done the way I need but I guess in the begining of every new system there is a bit of trial and error. Hoping mine is minimal at best but I appriciate you taking the time to express the concern and chime in with your 2 cents. Its what makes it a community and its how we help each other out.

Regards-

 

[Grevious]

Love the front to back depth of this tank!!!

Should be nice to watch it while in bed.

 

[jnarowe]

He's never going to sleep now. Not with all those fish staring at him! :lol:

 

[CaptiveReefer03]

Thanks Grevious-

Ya Im defently looking forward to it. I use to have my 55gal next to my bed in my other house and loved it so I took it a bit further and decided its where I wanted to incorperate the system in my new house. I decided on the depth after I saw OregonReef's page (not that im advertising just loved his system!) It was quite the inspiration.

J-
I'll do my best to get some sleep but I dont think Im ever gonna leave that half of the house cause Ill have everything right there lol...

 

[jnarowe]

The cool thing about oregonreef is the awesome depth of field as well as the ability to easily reach all areas of the tank.

 

[CaptiveReefer03]

Ya and that was what I was trying to accomplish on my system, because I can clean all around the perimiter and reach the center from 2 of the 4 sides. Plus the drainage is easily accessable from underneath or from the main side on the fish room. The sump is set next to the setup so I can clean and maintain without any problems what so ever. Which reminds me I'll get the pics of that up tonight!

 

[CaptiveReefer03]

Here are my pics of my new sump and my plumbing so far... lmk if anyone has suggestions or comments ... they are always welcomed!

Enjoy-

 

[TylerFerretLord]

I always thought plumbing to and from a sump was horribly complicated.

That picture made me think otherwise. It's just a gravity fed pipe leading down to the sump, right? And a pump pushing it back up?

It looks good. I want more pictures! :eek2:

 

[CaptiveReefer03]

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"I always thought plumbing to and from a sump was horribly complicated.

Tyler-

Thanks I though it was fairly easy so far... almost too easy which concerns me that I am missing something.. and Ive got another 2 pumps for my closed loop systems and to anwser your question yes its all gravity fed to drain into the sump and a single pump to place it back into the system. One of the other 2 pumps will be online with my chiller as well... but more pics are soon to come, I have work tomorrow and then Im off for friday, saturday so hoping that I can finnish plumbing everything in and start adding water and salt. Follow along and looking forward to getting closer!!

Regards-

 

[jnarowe]

That's the best way to do it. I LOVE gravity! And I think you need a bigger skimmer T. I don't think that little nubbin of a skimmer is going to cut it.

 

[CaptiveReefer03]

J-

I was gonna run two CS12-2 Euro-Reef's not just one I figured instead of 1 Huge one I could run 2 Smaller ones...which honestly aren't so small its just the sump is really Large. Do you think that would work okay in all seriousness??

 

[jnarowe]

Well, I do think two smaller skimmers is a good idea, especially if you have a failure in one of them. I don't know anything about Euro-Reef skimmers so I can't comment on how well they will do for you. If I had a 600g system I would use a Volcano, ReeFlo, or DIY.

 

[ConGi]

thanks.

 

[32flavors]

Have you considered installing a whole house fan? They're relatively cheap to install and VERy cheap to run. You could have the primary export duct above the tank or at least in that room, which would allow you to evacuate all the humid room/house air in just a few minutes, which makes running it for short bursts effective even during inclimate summer/winter weather--except for when outdoor humidity is higher than the house. Otherwise, or even better still, in addition to a WHF, invest in a large capacity dehumidifier.

 

[CaptiveReefer03]

ConGi-

Thanks for what?

32-

Do you have any type of pictures of the system ideas that your talking about ? I would be worried about placing a fan inside that directly leads outside due to my roofing and the fact that I live in florida so we have really wet weather in the summer months and I would worry about leaks.