600 Gallon Upgrade Build

I don't know. Since I'm looking at 48" width, what gph should I do?

well the actual width really doesn't play here, the front of the rock work will be provided by flow from the sea swirls. so im thinking its the 96" length of the tank that comes into play when considering a powerhead behind the rocks. lets say you have 2 powerheads. one on each side. so each PH will cover atleast 48" that will need to cut in and out of rock work... I would think you would need something around 2500-3000gph each pump?!? this would give you a nice strong current behind the rocks and even wit some of the rock work eating up some of the actual flow, itll give you a decent amount still to push everything around. it def seems like a lot of flow behind the rock, but again remember the length of the tank, the actual flow bouncing of the glass and rocks, etc etc. these powerheads don't have to be anything special. they will be basically hidden and are used for a simply concept of moving water. I would think tho 2x pumps around 2500-3000gph each would work nice??

what are you thoughts wayne?
 
well the actual width really doesn't play here, the front of the rock work will be provided by flow from the sea swirls. so im thinking its the 96" length of the tank that comes into play when considering a powerhead behind the rocks. lets say you have 2 powerheads. one on each side. so each PH will cover atleast 48" that will need to cut in and out of rock work... I would think you would need something around 2500-3000gph each pump?!? this would give you a nice strong current behind the rocks and even wit some of the rock work eating up some of the actual flow, itll give you a decent amount still to push everything around. it def seems like a lot of flow behind the rock, but again remember the length of the tank, the actual flow bouncing of the glass and rocks, etc etc. these powerheads don't have to be anything special. they will be basically hidden and are used for a simply concept of moving water. I would think tho 2x pumps around 2500-3000gph each would work nice??

what are you thoughts wayne?

Those are the numbers that I'm looking for. I didn't wanna tease the tank and use under powered wave makers. I'll trust your judgement.
 
well that's something I didn't think about either. some powerheads like the bigger magnum korlias on one of those koralia wavemakers, not the controllable one, the lil black controller im thinkin would work good. so instead of a constant rush of water, you can have them on the koralia wavemaker for even more of a random flow. also it would prevent the two powerheads streams from slamming into each other in the middle of the tank. this would allow one side of the power head to flow until it eventually died off then the other pump kicks on, well you get the picture, your name is newbie but your def not new to the hobby lol...
 
well that's something I didn't think about either. some powerheads like the bigger magnum korlias on one of those koralia wavemakers, not the controllable one, the lil black controller im thinkin would work good. so instead of a constant rush of water, you can have them on the koralia wavemaker for even more of a random flow. also it would prevent the two powerheads streams from slamming into each other in the middle of the tank. this would allow one side of the power head to flow until it eventually died off then the other pump kicks on, well you get the picture, your name is newbie but your def not new to the hobby lol...

Well I joined RC in 2009 and forgot. I used to check my posts but no one ever responded. I figured I wasn't popular enough so I didn't reappear until I started this build. In all honesty it's all about the basics. Then you adjust depending on the situation. Plus I'm a quick learner and keep notes of other people's accomplishments and failures.
 
Well I joined RC in 2009 and forgot. I used to check my posts but no one ever responded. I figured I wasn't popular enough so I didn't reappear until I started this build. In all honesty it's all about the basics. Then you adjust depending on the situation. Plus I'm a quick learner and keep notes of other people's accomplishments and failures.

very much the same myself. I do learn from others situations. and I totally agree, not a total knock on this site, but if you don't have a huge lavish build with all the most expensive toys to go with it, ppl don't seem to bother. I felt like that wit many of my threads on this forum. but it is what it is right...
 
very much the same myself. I do learn from others situations. and I totally agree, not a total knock on this site, but if you don't have a huge lavish build with all the most expensive toys to go with it, ppl don't seem to bother. I felt like that wit many of my threads on this forum. but it is what it is right...

You got that right.
 
Wayne I would double check. I'm not saying one is right and one is wrong but in my research for acrylic tanks e builder I chose to help me and other builders all recommended the overflow box topped with the eurobrace. For strength purposes. The weight of the water in the overflow box can cause stress on the seams

Corey
 
Wayne I would double check. I'm not saying one is right and one is wrong but in my research for acrylic tanks e builder I chose to help me and other builders all recommended the overflow box topped with the eurobrace. For strength purposes. The weight of the water in the overflow box can cause stress on the seams

I've never heard of this...I've had a few (~10) acrylic tanks custom built since 1991... Depending on water height, his overflows are ~3 gallons...how much stress will be on the seams?
 
I've never heard of this...I've had a few (~10) acrylic tanks custom built since 1991... Depending on water height, his overflows are ~3 gallons...how much stress will be on the seams?

Not cutting you short but each overflow holds approximately 7.68 gallons max each. Since the height is 9.25", at operation ill looking at about 5-6 gallons.
 
I'm not sure either really, I have just heard it. I had my overflow box internal so it wasn't a major concern of mine. Maybe it's just more of a safety precaution

Corey
 
My builder has a very good rep and I trust his every thought and planning into my tank especially it being built the way I want. Until then its pickup what I can while i wait.
 
Water Change Hose

Water Change Hose

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To make my water changes easier, would it be safe for me to use Marine, Boat, RV hose and attach it to a pump and place a shutoff valve on the end?
 
Hi new to this thread, but I am actually planning a similar tank. Mine will be 96"x36"x36" with in the plans currently 3 external overflows. My builder does not do a Eurobrace on the overflow. He usually does 2, 1 1/2" drains in each overflow with dimensions of box being 16"x6"x16" if I do not have any pipes. He said this is what he usually does. He provides lids for the overflow for noise factor. If I wanted to do a Herbie overflow he would have to make the boxes 18"x6"x10" because of the weight of the water. The boxes would be flooded in that situation, and because of weight he would need the boxes to be smaller, again no Eurobraces. The drains would be 2 drains 2"in each box. It's my choice. I wanted to do the no pipe way because of ease of plumbing but I am wondering about the noise. He really said with the covers he provides he's had no complaints, however I am torn. Oh, my tank is glass however. Don't think that makes a difference with the question of bracing the overflows.
 
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To make my water changes easier, would it be safe for me to use Marine, Boat, RV hose and attach it to a pump and place a shutoff valve on the end?

I also forgot to add the details.

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Hi new to this thread, but I am actually planning a similar tank. Mine will be 96"x36"x36" with in the plans currently 3 external overflows. My builder does not do a Eurobrace on the overflow. He usually does 2, 1 1/2" drains in each overflow with dimensions of box being 16"x6"x16" if I do not have any pipes. He said this is what he usually does. He provides lids for the overflow for noise factor. If I wanted to do a Herbie overflow he would have to make the boxes 18"x6"x10" because of the weight of the water. The boxes would be flooded in that situation, and because of weight he would need the boxes to be smaller, again no Eurobraces. The drains would be 2 drains 2"in each box. It's my choice. I wanted to do the no pipe way because of ease of plumbing but I am wondering about the noise. He really said with the covers he provides he's had no complaints, however I am torn. Oh, my tank is glass however. Don't think that makes a difference with the question of bracing the overflows.

Hello and thank you for joining my build. If it should come to noise then I will manufacture a lid to dampen the sound.
 
I'm also pretty lucky to live close by an inlet to grab ocean water. I hook up the pool hose to a sump pump and collect 100 to 150 gallons at a time for me and a few other reefing buds.
 
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