9010 vs 9015 ?

Mounda

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Since both of these run the same pump and have the exact same body except for the collection pump can someone please explain why the 9015 is rated at 390+ gallons while the 9010 is rated at 260+ gallons ?

If the cup was the only difference then would the 9010 be upgradable?
 
With the taller 9015 cup the skimmer can be operated at full performance. With the 9010 the air may need to be restricted a bit. People usually report a drier foam with the 9015. You can buy the 9015 cup but I don't think it's an upgrade, stick with the 9010 cup, or better yet get the 9020 foam extractor.
 
As smatter said, the 9010 cannot run with the full air flow, it will skim pretty much just water at this setting. The cup is also the reaction chamber so the 9015 has more contact time and more air flow as a result of the cup. It skims very dry and the 9020 foam extractor is a better upgrade as it is about 3/4" shorter and this allows a wider range of adjustment. With the new models 9011 and 9016 the 9016 will likely have a slightly longer impeller and slightly shorter cup to improve the performance. Also, keep in mind the stated ratings are essentially for FOWLR tanks, the manuals and catalog recommend reducing the rating by 20% for soft corals, 40% for mixed reef, 60% for SPS and 70% for SPS with a high fish load.
 
Roger, will upgrading to the 9020 foam extractor increase the efficiency or rating of the skimmer ? I was thinking about getting the 9010 for my current 100 gallon mixed reef system and then upgrading it next year when I upgrade my tank to a 250 gallon mixed reef system. Any thoughts ?
 
Honestly I would get the 9410 if you have the space, it is stronger and will easily handle the 100, and I would feel more confident in its ability with the 9020.140 foam extractor on a 250, I think he 9010 with foam extractor would be underpowered for the 250.
 
I think the 9410 costs as much as the 9015 so wouldn't I be better off going with the 9015 from the start?

My interest in the DOC comline skimmers is primarily size and weight because this is an international order and the bigger the skimmer the more shipping I have to pay. I know that the tunzes ship in smaller boxes and weigh less than most.

9010 and 9015 come in a 7"x11"x15" package and weigh 6lbs, right ?
What about the 9420 ? How big is its package and how much does it weigh ?

Thanks
 
9410 comes in the same size package, it is stronger because it uses a needlewheel pump there is more and smaller bubbles as a result, it does weigh more, the pump is heavier, it weighs about 8lbs. 9420 weighs about 15lbs, it is packaged in a bucket to collect the skimmate and it is large so typically it ships as 30lbs because of the size, the bucket is about 18" around and 24" tall.
 
Too bad a needle wheel isn't an option for the 9010. The skimmer body probably can't handle that much air.
 
Yes, that is the problem, before the 9010 was released the goal was to take the 3130/2 and make a needlewheel version, the body is too small and with the pump inside the body eventually becomes a giant airbubble and the pump runs dry, it works great for about a day, after 3 days it is literally a box of air.
 
So the difference between the 9410 and the 9010/15 is only 2lbs and the package is the same 7"x11"x15", that is interesting because that package size is nice and snug. The 9420 is a beast in size, weight and price, definitely not for me.

How would the 9015 compare to the 9410 with and without the 9020.140 foam extractor on a 250g mixed reef system ? The price is almost the same.
 
I think the 9410 is better and with the foam extractor it is definitely stronger than the 9015.
 
9410
Dimensions without post-filter: L250 x W113 x H418 mm (L9.8 x W4.4 x H16.4 in.) 230 V / 50 Hz, 11 W
Water throughput: 900 l/h (237 USgal./h)
(115 V / 60 Hz, 15 W, water flow rate: 999 l/h (264 USgal./h)

Do they work on both voltages like laptop chargers ?
 
There are two different models, if you need 230V 50Hz you would need to order it from Europe or a dealer in a country with this voltage. In the US we only get 115V 60Hz. The pumps come with the appropriate plug for each country so you need to be sure you order from a country with a similar plug style to yours. There are also 240V/50Hz models and on some pumps 230V/60Hz models by special request.
 
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