95 Gallon Build Thread

[Chago09]

Re: A good deal...

Re: A good deal...

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12593454#post12593454 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Lightsluvr
By the way, you got a heck of a deal on that tank - trust me; we bought ours new...

I hope you don't have a crash because of a "false cycle" in your tank... You're smart to get rid of that crushed coral...

My Wave tank is now a seahorse community - picture below. Those fake plants are hitching posts for the horses. There are about 30 real coral in there, mostly zoas, paly, blastos, sun coral, etc. Doesn't look like it, but that's 120 pounds of live rock.
We're using the exact same light system...really do like the Outer Orbit, except for that shipping issue. You're lucky you bought from DFS - I saved a few bucks by purchasing from Seacorals.com, and I have yet to receive the time of day for any of the broken bulbs. They suck.

Good luck and enjoy!

LL

I agree I don't know how a cycle could possibly happen in 2 days. I think his levels were zero because it had not even started yet. 48 hours is unheard of.

 

[vader88]

Your right, I didn't say anything about the cycle in THIS THREAD, I started a new thread in which I questioned it.

I was informed by a few members that it is possible I already cycled, but I should add stock slowly.

The rock that I put in the tank was 90 lbs of cured fiji. Sure, it got some dieoff during shipping, it was overnighted and delivered the following morning so it was most likely minimal ( less than 24 hour from shipped to received ).

I added another 40 lbs of LR from my established tank a couple days ago also, their would have been zero dieoff and that may have sped things along in themself.

 

[vader88]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12593546#post12593546 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by vader88
Your right, I didn't say anything about the cycle in THIS THREAD, I started a new thread in which I questioned it.

I was informed by a few members that it is possible I already cycled, but I should add stock slowly.

The rock that I put in the tank was 90 lbs of cured fiji. Sure, it got some dieoff during shipping, it was overnighted and delivered the following morning so it was most likely minimal ( less than 24 hour from shipped to received ).

I added another 40 lbs of LR from my established tank a couple days ago also, their would have been zero dieoff and that may have sped things along in themself.

I don't have time to read through my own thread, but I don't remember saying I cycled in 2 days. It was 6 days when I noticed I had dropped really low in ammonia, nitrite and nitrate, 2 days later, everything was zero.

 

[Chago09]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12593546#post12593546 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by vader88
Your right, I didn't say anything about the cycle in THIS THREAD, I started a new thread in which I questioned it.

I was informed by a few members that it is possible I already cycled, but I should add stock slowly.

The rock that I put in the tank was 90 lbs of cured fiji. Sure, it got some dieoff during shipping, it was overnighted and delivered the following morning so it was most likely minimal ( less than 24 hour from shipped to received ).

I added another 40 lbs of LR from my established tank a couple days ago also, their would have been zero dieoff and that may have sped things along in themself.

Vader again I am no expert but I think you made some big mistakes. For one yes you did not write anything in this thread about your tanks cycle so the other posters who were smart assess owe me an apology not you. Anywhoo whoever told you your tank was actually cycled after two days must be mistaken or misunderstood your set up. "CURED" live rock is a good way to sell rock for a couple bucks more per pound. Put it this way if you wanted to buy a fish of me and I took it out of water and wraped it in wet newspaper and shipped it to you over a 24 hour period. Would you receive some fresh tuna?? more than likely. The bacteria and life on the "cured" rock is a sea animal and needs to be in water not in wet newspaper with ink leaking all over it.

I have bought 15lbs of live rock from a local fish store which is 15 minutes from my house and I added in my tank and it caused a small ammonia increase in my 90 gallon. There is no way your online live rock lasted 24+hours in newspaper and didn't have die off. That die off won't really start taking effect for atleast a two weeks.

Now lets say I am way off and you really had no die off:eek1: and your tank cycled in two days. Well that could only mean that there is so little life on that rock and little bacteria that yes for the current bioload which is zero the bacteria can handle. Once you add something it needs to reach balance again. In that pic you added like 10 corals and I can't see if there is any fish. I am going to guarantee you that you will run into issues over the next few weeks. Believe me I have done exactly what you have done and I lost fish. I have moved my 90 gallon before about 5 feet over and to do that I had to remove everything and put it back in. I didn't waste a drop of water. Guess what I add some ammonia creap up on me.

Your on a train wreck right now and you need to take out all animals and wait the 6 weeks like everyone in the hobby does.

 

[vader88]

Chago, I'm not saying my tank cycled in 2 days, I know that is ridiculous.

If you read a little closer, my cycled started and within 5 days I noticed the reading to be ammonia 0 nitrite .25, nitrate 20 ... 2 days later, I was at 0 across the board.

I know this is not the norm, but it's what happened.

 

[Lightsluvr]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12593546#post12593546 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by vader88


The rock that I put in the tank was 90 lbs of cured fiji. Sure, it got some dieoff during shipping, it was overnighted and delivered the following morning so it was most likely minimal ( less than 24 hour from shipped to received ).

Bought cured rock from DFS? Or from another reefer? If it was from DFS or any other LFS, I don't know that I'd be too cozy about whether it was well cycled. Did it have deep coraline algae growth?

I don't want to discourage you - just hope you don't have a deep cycle after you introduce bio-load. Most of the experts I have read will toss in a few cocktail shrimp into the new tank to introduce bacteria. The chemistry goes nuts for a few weeks, but you know you've really cycled when your Nitrates, Ammonia, Nitrites and PO4 then go to zero.

LL

 

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12593233#post12593233 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Chago09
alright well now I read your entire thread and no where did you say anything about your cycle so I don't know why everyone has the smart *** comments?????

IMO that is totally out of line and offensive

"everyone" gave misinformation to him---give me a break

I think it is your particular posts that have "attitude" problems not ours

BTW
My particular comments were regarding the crushed coral substrate---not that it is any off your business--but I did pm another poster who I respect for a second opionion before suggesting to remove it.

 

[vader88]

I also did the cocktail shrimp thing... 3 of them for 7 days. I took them out at that point cause someone here told me that was " old school "

Lightsluvr,

90 lbs was from DRFS and 40 lbs from my tank. The DRFS had some coralline, but not close to what my own rock has.


I'm going to go ahead and move the LS back to the cube.


Thanks everyone

 

[Tswifty]

Wow... this flew out of hand rather quickly. Chago, relax a little bit, there's no train wreck here...

There's one thing that is being overlooked... A second established tank :eek2:

Just move the livestock to that tank, swap substrate, cycle, make your additions, lather rinse, repeat... Boom TOTM!!!

 

[Lightsluvr]

Yeah.

Yeah.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12593824#post12593824 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Tswifty8
Wow... this flew out of hand rather quickly. Chago, relax a little bit, there's no train wreck here...

There's one thing that is being overlooked... A second established tank :eek2:

Just move the livestock to that tank, swap substrate, cycle, make your additions, lather rinse, repeat... Boom TOTM!!!

There's a thought...good plan Tswifty!

Vader, whoever told you that the cocktail shrimp trick is "old school", refer them to Marc's article for beginning reefers: http://melevsreef.com/overview.htm

I don't anyone can accuse Marc of being old school...

I see you in your other thread that you used the shrimp - maybe just didn't leave them in there long enough to get really "randy" - that's part of the process...

You still may be fine - only time will tell...

LL

 

[vader88]

I'm on vacation for the next 2 weeks, so I'll be able to keep a close eye on everything. Gonna swing by the LFS and get 4 bags of LS.

Should I go ahead and transplant all the LS then add the LS ?

 

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12594316#post12594316 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by vader88
I'm on vacation for the next 2 weeks, so I'll be able to keep a close eye on everything. Gonna swing by the LFS and get 4 bags of LS.

Should I go ahead and transplant all the LS then add the LS ?

Not quite sure what you are asking here

 

[vader88]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12595540#post12595540 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by capn_hylinur
Not quite sure what you are asking here

After I got home and read it, I was trying to figure out what rubbish I wrote.

Pay not mind


all params are at zero ( cycling ones ), starting to see a diatom bloom in the back right corner, it's either new tank syndrome or low flow.

 

[Chago09]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12593766#post12593766 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by capn_hylinur
IMO that is totally out of line and offensive

"everyone" gave misinformation to him---give me a break

I think it is your particular posts that have "attitude" problems not ours

BTW
My particular comments were regarding the crushed coral substrate---not that it is any off your business--but I did pm another poster who I respect for a second opionion before suggesting to remove it.

wow where are you taking this??? I was not being rude in any of my posts, except when I said people were cracking jokes when I said how is he already adding live stock. Everyone made silly comments about me not reading the thread. Then I replied saying no where in the thread did it mention the cycle.

About this "everyone" you quoted. I don't know where you found that. I don't even know where the other thread is where he asked about his cycle. What my exact words were
"Anywhoo whoever told you your tank was actually cycled after two days must be mistaken or misunderstood your set up." I said that because the OP said after two days his levels were already coming down. I don't know who told him or what they told him I was just repeating what he told me.

Lastly the CC???? what are you talking about man??? I never even mentioned anything about CC.

Not very good at reading for a teacher are you???

 

[Chago09]

Vader no hard feelings I was not getting mad, I don't know how people can tell me not to be mad on internet considering there is no emotion in letters. I am just saying something must be wrong and you made the right choice in moving the live stock back. You won't regret it trust me. Even if I was 100% wrong and your tank is fine for the next 3 weeks. Well at least you didn't risk it right?

 

[Chago09]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12593824#post12593824 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Tswifty8
Wow... this flew out of hand rather quickly. Chago, relax a little bit, there's no train wreck here...

There's one thing that is being overlooked... A second established tank :eek2:

Just move the livestock to that tank, swap substrate, cycle, make your additions, lather rinse, repeat... Boom TOTM!!!

yes swifty I agree live stock needs to be moved back and thats all I was telling the OP to do. Sorry if you thought I was getting mad but I really wasn't, can't really show emotion with words.

Only thing that bugged me is when I posted my first post people were making jokes about me not reading the thread and aparently I was supposed to know something about the OP's cycle. There was nothing in this thread about his cycle, it was in another thread which I have never seen. Thats all I was trying to say. :smokin:

 

[Aquarist007]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12595828#post12595828 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Chago09
wow where are you taking this??? I was not being rude in any of my posts, except when I said people were cracking jokes when I said how is he already adding live stock. Everyone made silly comments about me not reading the thread. Then I replied saying no where in the thread did it mention the cycle.

About this "everyone" you quoted. I don't know where you found that. I don't even know where the other thread is where he asked about his cycle. What my exact words were
"Anywhoo whoever told you your tank was actually cycled after two days must be mistaken or misunderstood your set up." I said that because the OP said after two days his levels were already coming down. I don't know who told him or what they told him I was just repeating what he told me.

Lastly the CC???? what are you talking about man??? I never even mentioned anything about CC.

Not very good at reading for a teacher are you???

if the truth be known I hate reading and I flunked kindergarten

 

[Tswifty]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12595828#post12595828 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Chago09
Not very good at reading for a teacher are you???

Relax Chago... You need pick your words and battles wisely... Not in very good taste going after someone who goes out of their way to help as many people as Capn does.

The situation has been dealt with, there's no need to drag it on any further... and especially no need to throw insults around.

 

[Tswifty]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12595866#post12595866 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Chago09
yes swifty I agree live stock needs to be moved back and thats all I was telling the OP to do. Sorry if you thought I was getting mad but I really wasn't, can't really show emotion with words.

Only thing that bugged me is when I posted my first post people were making jokes about me not reading the thread and aparently I was supposed to know something about the OP's cycle. There was nothing in this thread about his cycle, it was in another thread which I have never seen. Thats all I was trying to say. :smokin:

Like you said it is hard to convey intended emotions in writing... but insults require no thought and are plain as day. What you wrote was out of line, and uncalled for.

As I stated above, I hope this situation is over now, we've messed up vader's thread with enough with this garbage.

 

[vader88]

Got everything transferred back ... tomorrow I'll work on changing the substrate over ... only thing that stinks is losing the 40 lbs of live sand already in there.... I'm sure not going to sift through it.


Now the long painful wait ...