a bunch of questions

playa0069u

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k I have a bunch of questions for everybody.
1. I started a tank for my friend, a standard 29 gallon(39"), he wanted a mandarin which I advised against and explained why. What fish can he look at getting, also what inverts could he get. (besides coral).
2. how much live rock is too much? I have heard no more than 1.75 pounds per gallon, but this rock is HEAVY. not as dense as I would like it... but it was free! thanks Laine...
3. Found an anemone well actually two but one is very small, anyways, it is clear, with white dots on it. I am pretty sure it is a curly cue anemone. I have heard they are not reef safe, it has not been under any special lighting for a LONG time, as this rock is uncurred and has not been under light. Can it be kept alive with feedings? and should it or will it harm fish. It didnt sting me lol when i stuck my finger on him lol smart huh. he cannot be removed without killing him he is inside a coral skeleton.
4. he used uncured rock, so it cycles the same way right? vacuum of crud everyonce and a while, and the tank is ready when ammonia and nitrite are zero and nitrate is under 10. right?
5. Umm I think that is about it for now! thanks alot guys and gals.

ps. this is not the 30 long for my girlfriend for those of you that have been following along. That is doing well though, pics to come soon...cycling... fun stuff lol very exciting.
 
That rock also has small cup corals on it. You may be seeing that. When I was starting, I thought they were anemones. They acted like anemones, and ate like them.

Also, from what I have heard and read, the curly cue is basically the Gulf's version of a glass anemone, and they don't spread like aptasia found on Pacific rocks (Tonga, Fiji, etc). My father has 3 large ones and they haven't spread in the several months he has had them, and they are pretty big and cool. In my opinion, if you like it, keep it. If you don't, then get rid of it. Maybe curly and Gulf's glass are different, but the Gulf one definately isn't considered a pest anemone.
 
if it is gulf rock - sounds like it is, than you can use more than the "recommended" amount. The rock is less porous than fiji rock and thus you need more of it to equal the surface area available on the holy rock. Post a pic of the little critters, i have a few cup coral on some of my rock and feed them regularly.

Look at an atlantic pygmy angelfish, C. Argi, colorful little angelfish that should do alright in 30 gals, most get too big. Maybe a 6-line or a clown pair? Top it off with a gobie or blenny to keep guard :) I would stop at 2-3 fish myself, others would probably toss in a 4th or 5th if his size was right. All depends on the filtration available i guess. :) good luck and good advice on the mandarin.

P.S. Give the rock the sniff test ;) As far as i have read it cycles the same, just takes longer. You might try to jumpstart things with a bit of live sand from your tank when the ammonia lowers.
 
its not a pest, but I read that it is not reef safe, and may sting fish. ps Ill look up cup corals now lol...
ALSO I JUST FOUND THESE! got a new piece of live rock the other day, and also new zoas, 1 of them, has these little things on it. the move fairly fast, kinda jerky like cope's. the are very small, white, with black speckles. I sucked one up, but it is SO small, there is no way I could take a picture of it. there are a few on the rocks, but mostly in that area I think.
ALSO lol yesterday I saw what looks like a silver fish shooting around in there lol I looked it up, and found out what it is, and forgot lol. Anything to worry about?
 
Ladyfsu, your wonderfull lol thats what it is but it is a little stretched out I guess from the lack of light. it doesnt have spirals like a cue, so I wasnt sure.
 
good idea with the live sand, i wasnt going to put sand in there yet so we could vacuum the junk off the bottom easier. I didnt even think of tha lol.
 
i did the same thing with the cup corals when i first found them. Kept reading about people saying to Joe's juice em, glad i didn't. You can tell them by a few things, they can retract into their own little calcerous tube. They have little bubbles all through the tentacles with a nice bubble at the very end, unlike a BTA that flares before the tip. Sounds like some pretty well handled rock if it has critters on it.
 
Definately, they are one of the few corals that do not have the symbiotic zooanthelle. <--- dont quote me on that spelling :) They need to be fed 1-2 times a week, light does not matter much with them. I feed mine mysis or cyclop-eeze, whatever the other tankmates are getting.
 
I have lots with cup corals ... but you can't have them :p yet! The students are going to finish setting up their tanks on Monday and Tuesday. I need to make sure I save them some of the goodies. HOWEVER, the guy that gives me all of this live rock said he should have quite a bit to donate again at the beginning of Dec. so we'll see.

Except for a couple of local "beach" tanks set up by students, I only have 1 students tank really going. He has adopted my mantis shrimp. It is just a little 10 gallon tank with N.O. lights, but 2 different pieces of rock have cup corals and he just stares at his tank during my class (and then skips lunch to stare at his tank more) and every 5 minutes I hear "Ms. Smith, Ms. Smith!! Come here! What's this thing?" He just about fell over watching the cup coral eat a small piece of shrimp. He thought he was watching a rock open up it's mouth and suck in the shrimp...new meaning to "live rock."
 
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