A Splash of Color

[Wrangy]

You lot have not listened to a word i said..........:facepalm:

:deadhorse1:

I made a little island just for you Sahin

Mmmmm that top left corner is doing some nice things!! :inlove: I'm still scared because the pale colours have stayed pale though haha

 

[Acronic]

You lot have not listened to a word i said..........:facepalm:

Chlorophyll biosynthesis is inhibited by iron deficiency induced
by a number of metals (1)-cobalt and manganese in
particular. The mechanism is considered to be competition
for an active site where iron is necessary for functional integrity.

yes :xlbirthday:

 

[Usernam Invalid]

You lot have not listened to a word i said..........:facepalm:







I made a little island just for you Sahin

That island........speechless.......drooling....

 

[biggles]

Andrew,
I've always believed that with balling (or Randy's recipe) WC have to be at least 10%

Once i use up the last of this bucket i'll get some NSW and flush the system with a few 20% water changes over a month. I might go back to continuum salt which was 7.6 mixed.

Can you get a close picture of the validia looking acro with the neon green tips and purplish blue base color please? The one in the back left side of this picture.

That orange is pink one with baby blue tips is sick! Now I have a new coral to hunt out of the aussie shipments. Looking forward to seeing how the base color turns out. Beautiful tank bro!

It's A. secale i believe mate, i'll get a shot of it from the back side for you as i have it growing away from the front glass.

Your out of luck. I believe Andrew stopped paying Alimony this past December.

Marty

Stupid boy decided to go to university so i'm now worse off lol...........

I think you should look into researching the effects of these metals on enzymes. The cyano likely became deficient of an essential metal (no waterchanges?) which was replaced by another metal (BJ potion) that had a toxic effect and vice versa for the antioxidants in the corals making them fluoresce

I don't know Kevin........ sounds like work to me mate......

It was ~8.4 dKH. FWIW, here is the guaranteed analysis of Kent Marine Super Chelated Iron shown on the bottle. which I still keep:

Soluble potash 3%
Iron (min) .24% (.24% chelated iron)
Manganese (min) .01%
Molybdenum (min) .000005%
Zinc (Min) .00014%

Cheers

That is what i would dose if i wanted all my colors to fade and the zoa to turn dark Bulent. You want trace iron with manganese or the manganese will be plant fertilizer along with the iron.

Mmmmm that top left corner is doing some nice things!! :inlove: I'm still scared because the pale colours have stayed pale though haha

I haven't given you a frag of that one yet Dom, your new tank will have lots of room for frags though........

yes :xlbirthday:

What does the candle blowing guy mean Kevin, you don't like my ideas do you Kevin.

That island........speechless.......drooling....

Did you just drop spit on my acros mate.........

 

[reefmutt]

How do you suppose a big ball of cheato will respond to iron limited and manganese/cobalt enriched reef water?
This has me holding back...
Andrew, I'm getting tired of telling you how super crazily audaciously smack dab scrumpdileicious your corals are......
But NOT tired of looking at them...
I actually like your older pieces with the strong gold/yellow and purple contrast or the pale blue/ strong pink ones or the red/orange and mauve/burgundy ones..
The pale ones aren't really doing it for me...
Now, you can appreciate I wouldn't say this to just anybody, but you know, you have spoiled us.. You brought it on yourself..
It's your own fault that we are getting defending...
Now... Photobomb dammit!!!!

 

[DiscusHeckel]

That is what i would dose if i wanted all my colors to fade and the zoa to turn dark Bulent. You want trace iron with manganese or the manganese will be plant fertilizer along with the iron.

I do not use this particular Kent marine product anymore. I used it when I kept chaeto. Can I please repeat my questions:

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=24407009&postcount=919

Thank you.

 

[biggles]

How do you suppose a big ball of cheato will respond to iron limited and manganese/cobalt enriched reef water?
This has me holding back...
Andrew, I'm getting tired of telling you how super crazily audaciously smack dab scrumpdileicious your corals are......
But NOT tired of looking at them...
I actually like your older pieces with the strong gold/yellow and purple contrast or the pale blue/ strong pink ones or the red/orange and mauve/burgundy ones..
The pale ones aren't really doing it for me...
Now, you can appreciate I wouldn't say this to just anybody, but you know, you have spoiled us.. You brought it on yourself..
It's your own fault that we are getting defending...
Now... Photobomb dammit!!!!

The macro will struggle to live Matt just as any photosynthetic organism will to varying degrees. When photosynthetic organisms are prevented from utilizing nitrates etc because you have interrupted their life cycle to an extent the very large amount of media such as matrix will quickly form large populations of bacteria that are no longer competing with algae to get a feed.
Excess bacteria is skimmed off resulting in a rise in skimmate production along with bacteria in the water at much higher concentrations than normal which allows the coral to gather the nutrition it requires from the bacteria etc rather than through the zoa.

I do not use this particular Kent marine product anymore. I used it when I kept chaeto. Can I please repeat my questions:

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=24407009&postcount=919

Thank you.

As requested Bulent.

Difference between Photosystem I and Photosystem II (PSI vs PSII)

The Biology of Cyanobacteria

 

[Acronic]

It's a rhetorical riddle

 

[biggles]

Tell me, does this make you tilt your head to the left or do you think me mentioning it made you do it. Now we will never know the answer will we.............

 

[Wrangy]

:lolspin::lolspin: that made me laugh because yes, yes I did tilt my head

 

[biggles]

I gave this piece to Nick so he could send it to Chris to grow out for me and send it back when it was an 8" tall colony - he knows room is tight so i trusted him to give me a yell as soon as the magic 8" size was reached. I figured i could put one over on you guys. :beer:

Today i get a text saying ' it's ready, 18" just like you wanted mate '

I'll just pop that on a monti with some glue will i Cris and the guys won't pick that something is up............:facepalm:

Bloody collectors..........

 

[biggles]

:lolspin::lolspin: that made me laugh because yes, yes I did tilt my head

Of course you did.............

 

[wheelman76]

I gave this piece to Nick so he could send it to Chris to grow out for me and send it back when it was an 8" tall colony - he knows room is tight so i trusted him to give me a yell as soon as the magic 8" size was reached. I figured i could put one over on you guys. :beer:

Today i get a text saying ' it's ready, 18" just like you wanted mate '

I'll just pop that on a monti with some glue will i Cris and the guys won't pick that something is up............:facepalm:



Bloody collectors..........

Wow!! That's insane , look at the size of that thing!!

 

[Wrangy]

Holy **** :eek1: now that's what an echi(?) should look like!!!

 

[cugly]

Very nice make me a big island and send it to me

 

[Acronic]

Didn't tilt left... But that colony broke my neck on the double take.

 

[justy]

Hi Andrew
Love your thread and particularly the current subject of iron and manganese.
It has got me thinking!
There are thousands of ways to skin a cat! We can basically run our systems in three ways. Algae driven nutrient reduction, bacterial driven or a combination of the two.
It seems to me that systems driven by mostly bacteria have the greatest chance of success, as we drive down nutrients, but most importantly create food for corals. Where as systems driven by algae, macro in the sump or cyano drive down nutrients but do not create food for the corals.
Bacterial nutrient reducing systems (BNRS) ie Aquaforest and Zeovit seem to understand this but we as hobbists may not be fully grasping the principles and it's importance.
I wonder if both of these systems are iron limited and manganese rich????

Thanks again Andrew, I love a good topic to get the cranial juices flowing!
Justin.

 

[gregkn73]

The colours are Insane, and even more insane......is the simple way you achieved them.

 

[gregkn73]

I gave this piece to Nick so he could send it to Chris to grow out for me and send it back when it was an 8" tall colony - he knows room is tight so i trusted him to give me a yell as soon as the magic 8" size was reached. I figured i could put one over on you guys. [emoji481]

Today i get a text saying ' it's ready, 18" just like you wanted mate '

I'll just pop that on a monti with some glue will i Cris and the guys won't pick that something is up............:facepalm:

Bloody collectors..........

I finally found the best light for my tank.....solar tubes.

 

[DiscusHeckel]

The macro will struggle to live Matt just as any photosynthetic organism will to varying degrees. When photosynthetic organisms are prevented from utilizing nitrates etc because you have interrupted their life cycle to an extent the very large amount of media such as matrix will quickly form large populations of bacteria that are no longer competing with algae to get a feed.
Excess bacteria is skimmed off resulting in a rise in skimmate production along with bacteria in the water at much higher concentrations than normal which allows the coral to gather the nutrition it requires from the bacteria etc rather than through the zoa.

As requested Bulent.

Difference between Photosystem I and Photosystem II (PSI vs PSII)

The Biology of Cyanobacteria

Andrew, I agree with everything you said about bacteria feeding corals. While trying to eliminate cyanobacteria in my own tank, I dosed KZ ZEObak and Cyanoclean for quite a long time. Though these bacterial products proved to be ineffective in my system, I observed a very noticeable increase in the growth rates of all my corals. This growth has continued since I started to use Tropic Marin NP bacto balance last year. NP BB contains organic carbon that feeds heterotrophic bacteria.

Thanks for the links. The book you cited is THE book on cyanobacteria. Boomer recommended it to me to properly understand cyanobacteria as a lot of people go on about Redfield ratio as one of the causes of cyano. I managed to read the chapter on nitrogen fixation. I will now read the whole book. Thank you again.

Cheers

Bulent

PS. I have increased KoralColor to 0.75 ml per 600 l a couple of days ago after not noticing any improvement in pigments and sent you a progress report via pm.