A Splash of Color

[Acronic]

Manganese had the most positive effects but not much. My sudden cyano free and stuff all algae problems while the acros were coloring up better than i've ever seen and growing faster than i'm used to needs to be explained. Those two things are linked so i thought we could try to work out wth was going on as it might be something that could help all of us.

My skimmate rose from 250ml to 400ml after the first month.

My Mg draw has dropped in relation to alk and calcium.

I have plenty of detritus in the sump and overflow and don't use socks.

phos is 0.03

nitrates are 5


I'm doing way too little to explain the success i'm seeing in my opinion so something is most definitely up with the few things i'm using. Sounds weird but that's why i have spent weeks looking into the whole thing in an effort to explain it. :beer:

I think you should look into researching the effects of these metals on enzymes. The cyano likely became deficient of an essential metal (no waterchanges?) which was replaced by another metal (BJ potion) that had a toxic effect and vice versa for the antioxidants in the corals making them fluoresce

 

[Pife]

I think you should look into researching the effects of these metals on enzymes. The cyano likely became deficient of an essential metal (no waterchanges?) which was replaced by another metal (BJ potion) that had a toxic effect and vice versa for the antioxidants in the corals making them fluoresce

There have been studies showing the effects of manganese on biochromes.

 

[cFloor]

I need to go back and catch up on this experiment you are doin. The past few pics you've posted are crazy. Those couple acros really are glowing and your other corals have outstanding color as always. I have a few questions but I'll go back a few pages and catch up in case you've already covered them. Good stuff biggles!

 

[markalot]

Andrew,

the thread I link to below is about colors of a monti but check out the very last post.

Kent Marine Iron & Manganese supplement is what he used to try and raise Iron.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2098094&page=2

No luck with the Monti but his cyano vanished.

 

[mhucasey]

Andrew,

the thread I link to below is about colors of a monti but check out the very last post.

Kent Marine Iron & Manganese supplement is what he used to try and raise Iron.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2098094&page=2

No luck with the Monti but his cyano vanished.

Very interesting...those little nuggets that are sifted from threads that otherwise are concluding something different are what I love to read...and why each person who keeps a tank should pass along all the details of what they do even if it doesn't seem important at the time.

 

[DavidinGA]

Sic sps

 

[DiscusHeckel]

Andrew,

the thread I link to below is about colors of a monti but check out the very last post.

Kent Marine Iron & Manganese supplement is what he used to try and raise Iron.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2098094&page=2

No luck with the Monti but his cyano vanished.

In my case, I suffered from cyano for four years while dosing Kent Marine Iron & manganese for my chaeto bed. I have no idea if this product exacerbated cyano but I can tell you Mark that without any doubt that it did not eliminate it.

 

[wheelman76]

In my case, I suffered from cyano for four years while dosing Kent Marine Iron & manganese for my chaeto bed. I have no idea if this product exacerbated cyano but I can tell you Mark that without any doubt that it did not eliminate it.

What level was your ALK at ? I think I remember Andrew mentioning that ALK needed to be close to NSW levels for the manganese to be effective.

 

[markalot]

In my case, I suffered from cyano for four years while dosing Kent Marine Iron & manganese for my chaeto bed. I have no idea if this product exacerbated cyano but I can tell you Mark that without any doubt that it did not eliminate it.

Figures it was just a coincidence.

 

[DiscusHeckel]

What level was your ALK at ? I think I remember Andrew mentioning that ALK needed to be close to NSW levels for the manganese to be effective.

It was ~8.4 dKH. FWIW, here is the guaranteed analysis of Kent Marine Super Chelated Iron shown on the bottle. which I still keep:

Soluble potash 3%
Iron (min) .24% (.24% chelated iron)
Manganese (min) .01%
Molybdenum (min) .000005%
Zinc (Min) .00014%

Cheers

 

[bibarassa]

Discus Heckel,
you didn't dose Kent Marin Iron & Manganese but Super Chelated Iron, it isn't the same product. In addiction did you dose it daily as Andrew suggest?

 

[mhucasey]

Discus Heckel,
you didn't dose Kent Marin Iron & Manganese but Super Chelated Iron, it isn't the same product. In addiction did you dose it daily as Andrew suggest?

Yes I had some of the Iron and Manganaes product myself, I was always worried about adding too much so I was very sparing with dosing. I'm considering just getting manganese chloride - it's easy to find and would isolate the effect for our pseudo scientific study

 

[bibarassa]

Matt,
you can try with Triton Trace Base Manganese

 

[reefmutt]

Is there a readily available manganese test kit that is reasonably accurate?

 

[bibarassa]

Matt,
if you want to test Manganese I think you have to send a sample of tank water to Triton or Fauna Marin

 

[rburns24]

-
LaMotte has one for about $200US.
-

 

[reefmutt]

Matt,
if you want to test Manganese I think you have to send a sample of tank water to Triton or Fauna Marin

-
LaMotte has one for about $200US.
-

Hm... Not exactly readily available..

Bulent! Get Habib on the phone!!
We need a Salifert manganese test kit.

 

[sahin]

Andrew, I call for a properly white balanced HD video of the reef. Shot top down as well. I mean why should you enjoy the scrumptious acros all by yourself. :thumbsup:

 

[cFloor]

Andrew, I call for a properly white balanced HD video of the reef. Shot top down as well. I mean why should you enjoy the scrumptious acros all by yourself. :thumbsup:

This!

 

[biggles]

You lot have not listened to a word i said..........:facepalm:

Chlorophyll biosynthesis is inhibited by iron deficiency induced
by a number of metals (1)-cobalt and manganese in
particular. The mechanism is considered to be competition
for an active site where iron is necessary for functional integrity.

I made a little island just for you Sahin