About the mysterious photo of the red S. haddoni...

BonsaiNut

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In another thread people posted this photo:

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There was some heated discussion about whether the photo was true to life - the reds appear almost artificial they are so intense. I had a copy of this photo from another location, and managed to track the photo back to the person who took it - Scott Johnson - who lives in the Marshall Islands and who I talk anemones with. I sent him a note asking for more info on the photo, and he not only responded, but sent some other great shots of red/orange/pink S. haddonis that he had. Here is his response, as well as his other great photos:

I did take that red S. haddoni shot. It came from my web site under one of the video pages. Mostly I shoot video now--my wife does the stills. One of my older videos, shot with a combination of Hi8 and standard DV, is called Kwajalein Underwater and a few frame captured stills from that video can be seen at http://www.underwaterkwaj.com/dvd1/dvd1.htm. Was it really that color? Probably not quite. It is bright red, but the real color cannot be captured with a still camera and strobe. This anemone is down at about 70' depth on a lagoon slope, deeper than you should be able to see red. But you can. It used to puzzle me that I could occasionally see reds and oranges much deeper than I should have been able to. There is a small solitary fungiid (razor) coral out here that occasionally shows up as bright, glowing orange on the decks of shipwrecks at 130'. I finally read somewhere that some of these animals absorb some of the blue wavelengths of light, then radiate them out again as different wavelengths, sometimes giving you these reds and oranges at depths no sunlight of that color can reach. Anyway, this anemone is bright red down there at 70', but, like the orange fungiids, if you take a flash photo of it, the color just about vanishes. I get these color shots of it using the video camera with available light, a color correcting red filter, and the white balance feature of the camera. The white balance helps, and I did not have access to it in the housing on my last camera, which was used to take the haddoni picture you sent. Without my control over white balance, the old camera tended to oversaturate in some cases. A probably more realistic image of that particular specimen is the top image on http://www.underwaterkwaj.com/uw-misc/clowns/Stichodactyla-haddoni.htm. The red ones are rare, but I know of at least 2 that are very red, a few more with some red, and a couple of pretty bright pink ones. Attached are a few more video captures of this and the other very red specimen along with one of the bright pinks. One shot shows the very red one undergoing some bleaching in the fall of 2009 when a few corals and all the Heteractis magnifica bleached out. Interestingly, they do change sometimes. The pink one in particular has varied from rather dull to bright pink.

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Ok back to me :) Some great photos from Scott and a pretty detailed description of why it is hard to get a completely accurate color photo of anemones at depth. I recently posted links to photos on Scott's site on another thread, and some of the members here have bought his DVD's before and have great things to say. No I don't work with him but if you are in the market you might check out some of his work.
 
So the pink Haddoni on divers den tonight could just as well be a naturally occouring color? I was almost sure that LA/DD was going to post up a picture of a bleached/recovering red Haddoni but after reading Mr. Johnson's reply maybe not. Has there ever been a occourance of a orange Haddoni in captivity?


Edit: After re-reading I see the orange was refering to something else.
 
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So the pink Haddoni on divers den tonight could just as well be a naturally occouring color? I was almost sure that LA/DD was going to post up a picture of a bleached/recovering red Haddoni but after reading Mr. Johnson's reply maybe not. Has there ever been a occourance of a orange Haddoni in captivity?


Edit: After re-reading I see the orange was refering to something else.

It went from being sold as pink to maroon? Is that what it was :sad2: It didn't look like your typical red haddoni
 
There may be two different individuals responsible for the e-mails. One for the Sneak peak and a different for the actual update which would explain the difference of opinion in color. This happened yesterday as well, the sneak peak said blue Haddoni and when the update went out it was a purple Haddoni. I'm not sure if this is going to work but here is the link to the pink/maroon Haddoni http://www.liveaquaria.com/diversde...ref=4282&subref=AI&cmpid=E-_-TR-_-DDN-_-PRDCT
 
Well, I think the answer is a bit disappointing, actually. Not photoshopped, but also not that color under normal sunlight.

"Anyway, this anemone is bright red down there at 70', but, like the orange fungiids, if you take a flash photo of it, the color just about vanishes. I get these color shots of it using the video camera with available light, a color correcting red filter, and the white balance feature of the camera. "

That sounds like if we had one in a tank, it would not look very red after all. Like the overblue lighting used to sell many WYSIWYG corals that look nothing like the online photo when you get them in your own tank that isn't primarily 460 nm blue light.

That said, I know nice red haddonis do obviously exist that have good coloration. The one I had (shown blow on lower left) looked rather like it, just not the ultra intense (and possibly not "real") coloration shown in the top photo above):

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I think the point is that different animals appear differently under different light - and cameras cannot always accurately capture what the human eye perceives. Consider how difficult it is for many cameras to take photos under actinic lighting.

I love his other photos, which demonstrate the range of haddoni colors even within the "red" morph. Clearly some are redder, some are pinker, some are orange.

Here is a "red" haddoni that I had in my tank - this photo seems to be all over the Internet now:

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Here is another "red" haddoni at a wholesaler - photo taken with a flash.

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The second haddoni looks very orange. Would it look just as orange under 20K MH lighting?

Clearly the only solution is for me to fly to the Marshals and take some photos in situ :) He knows where those anemones are, and returns to them every now and then.
 
Clearly the only solution is for me to fly to the Marshals and take some photos in situ :) He knows where those anemones are, and returns to them every now and then.

I agree, and I think you should take me with you. Don't you need someone to hold the lights or something while you take the pic????:D

BTW, thanks for posting the info.
 
I have to admit, when I look at Scott's photos from the wild, how hard it would be to collect one of these beautiful anemones - knowing that you are probably condemning all of those clowns and damsels to death. I have never seen so many fish hosted by a single anemone before. In the last photo I counted twice and came up with somewhere around 70 fish! I wonder why some haddonis are the red morph while the majority are not? Haddonis are not at all uncommon - just some color morphs are.
 
I wonder why some haddonis are the red morph while the majority are not? Haddonis are not at all uncommon - just some color morphs are.

Understanding the genetics of colors of giganteas and haddonis would be very interesting. The reds and other rare colors may just be rare genes, or might require several recessive genes, etc.

Unfortunately, without being able to easily breed them, such an understanding is probably not readily attained.
 
Interesting that it still appears bright red at 70'+. IIRC, once you get down to 100" or so, the reds appear almost entirely brown.
 
I have to admit, when I look at Scott's photos from the wild, how hard it would be to collect one of these beautiful anemones - knowing that you are probably condemning all of those clowns and damsels to death. I have never seen so many fish hosted by a single anemone before. In the last photo I counted twice and came up with somewhere around 70 fish! I wonder why some haddonis are the red morph while the majority are not? Haddonis are not at all uncommon - just some color morphs are.

I was stunned by the number of clowns and damsels these creatures were harboring as well. Simply amazing!
 
My only problem with the pics is that clowns that are insode the anemone all loook photo shopped and thier colors looks to deep and saturated.
 
Interesting that it still appears bright red at 70'+. IIRC, once you get down to 100" or so, the reds appear almost entirely brown.

Not if you are referring to the original photo in this thread.. It was color corrected with a red filter and a camera that automatically white balanced it. So it might look brown in person but bright red when recorded that way. I have corals in my tank that were bright red when "photographed" by an online vendor using blue lighting (and presumably white balancing), but look only brown in my tank.
 
Interesting that it still appears bright red at 70'+. IIRC, once you get down to 100" or so, the reds appear almost entirely brown.

Normal reds, yes. Fluorescent reds, no.

Fluorescent pigmentation is common in corals and some anemones. Not saying that the red in this picture is a fluorescent pigment, but it might be. I know for a fact that some haddonis can have brilliant fluorescent green pigmentation over the entire oral disk. If the red in this case is being emitted due to fluorescent pigmentation it would explain why it glows red at depth and looks a dark brown/maroon color under daylight.

An interesting article on fluorescent pigmentation can be found here (this one specifically for fluorescent reds in corals).

I guess you could say that at depth the exact opposite of your quote also occurs: some brown pigments fluoresce red :)
 
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