Add maroon clown again.

[Chinese DNA]

Yesterday, I bought nine maroon and one ocellaris( gave my friend one maroon). Now there are 15 maroon and one ocellaris in my tank.(I had seven maroon before yesterday).

in the maroon that I bought yesterday, five maroon are big, the others are small. but I am not sure that the small are maroon clownfish. they are like this pic's clownfish, but their fin is like maroon clownfish.

what are their name?

Otherwise , the big maroon that I bought yesterday have gold in the first strip( the strip in the head). Is it crossbreed clown?
thanks

 

[martlla26]

That pic is of an Ocellaris clown I believe. It looks like mine. The new Maroon you have is a gold stripe or yellow maroon clown. When they are young their stripes are white, then as they age the first stripe starts turning yellowish until eventually all the stripes are yellow. One other thing...Umm... I've never heard of anyone keeping 15 clowns?? How big is this tank?

 

[Mud Shrimp Moe]

15 CLOWNFISH in ONE TANK!!!!

How big is this tank?

 

[ediaz]

I have +/- 500 in a 40 gal.:lol:

 

[Chinese DNA]

My tank is 1.2meter long, about 500litre water.
a pair of maroon is free, and the others are in cage.

To martlla26: I have seen 3cm gold strip maroon that three strip are yellow, and my new maroon that the first strip is yellow is 9 cm long. so I am sure that it is not young.

 

[Fay]

My tank is 1.2meter long, about 500litre water.

a pair of maroon is free, and the others are in cage.

Animal experiment is under your name as far as I know this site is for hobbyist that give their fish the right environment for survival in captivity.
I think what you are doing is cruel!!!!
You have already lost one maroon and yet you have bought more!!!
I don't think you will get anything to breed under those conditions

 

[Mud Shrimp Moe]

16 clownfish in a 500L tank is crazy!!!

Please stop!!

 

[brianemone]

2 maroon clowns are more than enough for a tank that size.

Please realise that this site is for the advancement or our hobby doint things like what you have done do not benefit the hobby, but will actually be to its detriment. you have been a member of this site long enough to realise that study of an animal before purchase is the responsable thing to do.

please take the fish back and in future exersize restraint and common sense before buying any living creature.

 

[Chinese DNA]

To fay: Please don't say puerile saying. You must pay more attention to that word. ' experiment animal' , don't 'Animal experiment'
yes, I work for experiment with animal, but all are for human health, I thinke that there are so many people working for 'Animal experiment' in the USA. Because American pay more attention to experiment science. we will don't have got bacterin without Animal experiment. you will know that we treat the Animal very well if you know some knowledge of Animal experiment, almost they do not feel any pain. Yet I breeding maroon clownfish is not experiment, that is my hobby. you know that wild marine fish are not able to eat food that human give. we have to feed them in the cage to exercise eating the food. and then I take them into another tank after they pair up, now I am hoping that them eat and mate as soon as possible. so I come here to find help.

 

[Fay]

we have to feed them in the cage to exercise eating the food. and then I take them into another tank after they pair up, now I am hoping that them eat and mate as soon as possible. so I come here to find help.

So are you putting each pair in their own tank, so you have seven tanks then.
Because if you don't have them happy they will not breed!!!!!!!
Also if you were taking on the responsibility of breed these maroon clowns you shouldn't need to come here for help you should have researched all you need to know before starting.
Why are you breeding these fish for a hobby?

 

[Chinese DNA]

you don't realize the situation of China, reproduction marine fish is not as strong as America. because there is not reproduction marine fish to buy, most of the people buy wild marine fish. if I give up for this, the people will still buy wild fish, the nature will bear more hurt. I have not enough time to learn before starting. because I need to study English first of all, it need 3 years when I can read English book. and then I need to learn biology........
Everyone is keeping fish as learning knowledge.
I had planned to keep two pair of clownfish, buy my friends ask me for help. they let me exercise them to eat, you will be able to catch them in live rock tank if they are ill. please don't forget that they are wild, the new fish may bring bacteria.

 

[Chinese DNA]

To brianemone: I am sure that you have never been to China. if I take it back, my do is as well as I send it to hell.
yes I can send it to nature if you would like to pay the ticket from Beijing to Indonesia.

 

[chImerAnz]

how about you come to our country, I put you in a small room with 15 of your friends and see what happens after a month. if you dont think its cruel, I'll leave you in there until you die then we can discuss it in hell...

 

[brianemone]

yeah, what he said.

who said anything about taking them to indonesia?? i reccomend you take them back to the place of purchase so they can go to a home more suitible than yours

 

[Chinese DNA]

please use your brain to think. I also hope give them a large tank. but wild fish can not eat food. you can try to think that one big tank and there are so many rock, and then I take a wild clownfish into it. it will house up immediately. if I give it a little food, they can not see the food. the food will pollute the water. so I have to take them in small place to exercise eating food. I will take them back my friends when they used to eat my food and don't have got disease. and then I and my friends research and reproduce together. I don't keep them in the cage forever. I am only isolation to observe.

 

[jimmymac]

i see that your english is as good as your reefing.

 

[Fay]

The word you need to use is quarantine
I think I understand what you are trying to do now.
Correct me if I am wrong but from what you have said you are putting your fish into quarantine which means to keep away from others for a time to prevent the spread of a contagious disease, and also you are using this method to make sure your fish are feeding before introducing them into the right environment.
The thing is your fish are in the same tank so any disease would spread from one fish to the other.
In New Zealand we do not have to worry about the fish not feeding when we get them home, because they are quarantined on arrival into New Zealand and then sent to the shop we purchase them from in good health and eating. It is law in New Zealand to quarantine all imported fish for hobbyists, I don't think this applies in a lot of other countries so we don't think of what you need to do.

I am upset because all clown fish are very territorial especially Maroon Clowns which I love very much. By nature they will fight to keep other clown fish away, I was worried that is why you were trying to breed them to use them for fighting.

I am no expert on how to breed clown fish some of the breeders on this site need to give you some advice on that but I am sure you will not be able to breed until you get them into the proper environment.

Good luck with your research.

I hope some of the breeders come forward to help you!!.

What sort of set up has your friend got?

 

[818]

Can you guys be nicer on the guy!

Hes from China! Is learning. He posted numerously he will not keep them there forever!

Is teaching fish to eat prepared foods! I mean in China their better off in his tank than in the LFS. LFS's water qualities are poor, and housed the same way hes keeing them!. He has a pair roaming free and other caged as how you would see them here in th US ast LFS's.

So in my opinion he is doing good for the hobby.

The people here at RC need to be a little more understanding, and try and realize that what Chinese DNA is doing is only trying to help out the hobbly whether successful or not, just not in an "American" prespective, wich would be housing a pair of GSM in a 120g tank.

So please ease up people!

I am very dissapointed of the people here at RC...Lets keep it fun and beneficial to the unexerienced hobbyis than a place where everyone is competing of how much one knows more than another.-Sam

 

[Feelers]

I have not enough time to learn before starting. because I need to study English first of all, it need 3 years when I can read English book. and then I need to learn biology........
Everyone is keeping fish as learning knowledge.

From what I can figure he means that he doesnt know what he is doing and is keeping the fish in order to learn about them. Not the most responsible method especially since hes starting with heaps, and replacing the dead ones.
Its kind of like learning to drive without knowing the road rules - and buying 15 cars because your bound to have a few crashes due to inexperience.


I agree, he does appear to be trying to help with aquaculturing to reduce the loss of natural fish stocks, and if he's only talking about his quarantine tank then there isnt a problem.

Buying fish in China is obviously very different from the US, however if he "saves" them from the LFS, he is rewarding the LFS for the bad job its doing.

 

[chImerAnz]

I am very dissapointed of the people here at RC

so go to another forum - you can please everyone. its a forum where anyone and everyone are allowed to express their opinions.

...and the fact that he's chinese is irrelevant and if you ask me, quite racist. you dont need to be a english speaking white person to understand the hobby. reef keeping books arent just written in english you know.