AEFW Chronicle

Gondore

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As many of you know that attended the last reef club meeting, I recently discovered some very distasteful pests in my tank. The name of this pests is acropora eating flatworms (AEFW). These aren't your garden variety flatworms. These flatworms love the colorful sticks in your tank and only the colorful sticks. Unfortnately for me, that is about 90% of the corals in my tank. In order to try and bring about something good from a bad situation, I thought I would document what I have learned so far and the steps I am going to take to eliminate these pests from my tank. Hopefully this thread can provide some useful information to others fighting this pest in their tank.

First off how can a person determine if they have AEFWs in their tank? The typical signs are lose of color, polyp recession, recession from the base upward, and bite marks. I first noticed the problem in my tank because of the lose in color of two of my millies. All of the other signs then began to show themselves. Initially I thought the lose in color was due to some nutrient issue in my tank, but after seeing recession from the base upward I started to wonder.

The best way to way confirm you have AEFW is to dip the suspect coral in Tropic Marine Pro Coral Cure (TMPCC), Revive, Fluke Tabs, or Levamisole. All of these dips have been shown to at least stun the worms causing them to fall from the coral. I used TMPCC to dip my coral and confirm I had the worms. I mixed the dip at roughly twice the dosage recommended. Identifying the worms while the coral is in the tank is almost impossible. The worms tend to hide from bright lights so the best time to inspect your corals is with a flashlight when your tank lights are out.

Here is what you are looking for:
FlatWormOnCoral.jpg


I was actually very surprised to find these pests in my tank. I say this because everything that has entered my tank has been dipped in Interceptor followed by TMPCC. I believe the TMPCC did kill all the adult AEFWs but failed to kill the eggs. At this time, there is no known dip that will kill the eggs. You must manually remove the eggs befor placing the coral in your tank. I failed to do this, resulting in an infestation.

Here are what the eggs looks like:
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Based on all the reading I have done and from speaking with several individuals who have dealt with/eliminated these worms from their systems you have three options.

1. Throw out all your acroporas and start over. As we all know, this is a very expensive option and it is unlikely this makes sense unless you only have a few sps corals.

2. Remove each acropora from your tank and dip it weekly for several weeks. This option isn't bad but will defintely not gaurantee you eliminate the worms from your system. This is because even though you remove the corals and dip them, the eggs could still remain on your live rock.

3. Move all acroporas from your display tank to a quaratine tank. Dip each acropora weekly for seven weeks. This option should give you the highest rate of success. The idea is to starve the AEFWs that remained behind in your display tank, while killing all those still on the corals via the dips.

I have chose option three mainly because I love trading/selling my sps corals and would never feel comfortable doing so unless I knew that I had zero AEFWs in my tank. In the following posts I will try to provide instructions and pictures on exactly the coarse of action I take.
 
So, having decided that I wanted to remove all my acroporas and quaratine them, I started working on putting together a quaratine tank. Rob (LOVETHISHOBBY) was very kind and let me borrow his 29 gallon bow front tank along with a CPR skimmer and a canister filter. I then purchased a 250 watt MH (Lumenmax 3 reflector and Icecap ballast) from a guy on ReefCentral and threw in a modded Maxijet that I had for flow. I purchased some small chain from Meijers and used it to mount the light from the ceiling in our guest room. In the canister filter I am running a pre-filter, lots of carbon, and a bio media of some kind. Here are some pictures of the tank setup:

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It's a bit messy, but it should get the job done.
 
I took about two hours last night removing all the acroporas from my tank. Several of the sps corals I have do not fall into the acropora family,

however, I plan to still dip them just in case. I guess in some ways I am lucky I ran into this problem so early in the life of my reef. I say this

because all of my stuff is still relatively small and not much of it had full encrusted to the rocks yet. I have spoken with others who had there reef

up for years when they ran into this problem. They had very large colonies and everything was encrusted. Not only do large colonies require a much

larger QT they are also very hard to inspect for eggs. Anyways, here are some pictures of the process:

Display tank with acros:

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Display tank without acros:

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QT tank:

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Good thread David. I am very interested to see how all of this turns out. This all sucks for you, but is a very good learning experience for the rest of us. You read about this stuff all the time, but until it happens to you, you have no idea what you are looking for. Please keep us up to date on the healing process of all of your corals.
 
David, does the dips kill them instantly? I ask just because if they feed on SPS, they still have a food source in the QT Tank.
 
Dave again, thanks for you well put together process. Your qt looks like it is well set up. Do you dip these all weekly for 7 weeks? or more frequently but held out of the main display for 7 weeks while it lies fallow? I really appreciate the work you are doing and the dilligent write up to share what you are learning with everyone.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13817817#post13817817 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JCR's Reef
David, does the dips kill them instantly? I ask just because if they feed on SPS, they still have a food source in the QT Tank.

The dip either kills the worms or stuns them enough to cause them to release themselves from the coral. I will also be inspecting each coral to remove eggs during each dip.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13817825#post13817825 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by LornaS
Dave again, thanks for you well put together process. Your qt looks like it is well set up. Do you dip these all weekly for 7 weeks? or more frequently but held out of the main display for 7 weeks while it lies fallow? I really appreciate the work you are doing and the dilligent write up to share what you are learning with everyone.

The corals get removed from the QT and dipped each week for seven weeks.

I really hope this thread helps others spot these pests before they make it into their tanks.
 
David, The steup looks great. I'm sure the the corals will adjust to the QT fine. How many weeks have you decided to treat for? Are you going with 6 or 7 weeks as we have talked about.

I still think that using Levamisole for the frist dip is a good choice. If you google for pig dewormer you should find a place to order it if you can't find it locally. here's one that i found http://www.animart.com/product.php?productid=2925&cat=167
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13818590#post13818590 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by JCR's Reef
With the caution your taking I think I would rather buy off of you instead of the LFS, lol. Nice little setup too.

Yeah, it's definitely a lot of work but the only way to go in my opinion if I want to be successful with sps corals long-term.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13820512#post13820512 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Dejavu
David, The steup looks great. I'm sure the the corals will adjust to the QT fine. How many weeks have you decided to treat for? Are you going with 6 or 7 weeks as we have talked about.

I still think that using Levamisole for the frist dip is a good choice. If you google for pig dewormer you should find a place to order it if you can't find it locally. here's one that i found http://www.animart.com/product.php?productid=2925&cat=167

Thanks for checking out the thread Brian. I plan to see how things are going. If my corals are doing alright overall then I plan to go 7 weeks. If I am experiencing a lot of losses I will probably cut it down to 6 weeks.

Thanks for the link. I looked all over the Net and didn't find this one. I am purchasing it now. :)
 
Good Luck. Just went through this myself. My suggestion (what worked for me) is to cut the base off when you do your next dip. AEFW lay their eggs at the base usually. No AEFW after the first dip (continued with weekly dips). My dips were TMPCC, saltwater. revive, quick freshwater and into QT(a bit aggressive). Lost 4 frags this way, and there was a lot of color loss. I went cutter happy when pulling and dipping my acros. Anything that didn't look right was tossed. I figured I'd rather turn a colony into 20 frags than lose it all. They grew out once, they'll do it again. All but two had full color back and new growth by the end of QT. Those two are starting to color up in the display. Yes it is a lot of work (especially when you've become accustomed to an automated tank), but worth it, but tossing 40+ species of Acro was not an option.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13820958#post13820958 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by klm2500hd
Good Luck. Just went through this myself. My suggestion (what worked for me) is to cut the base off when you do your next dip. AEFW lay their eggs at the base usually. No AEFW after the first dip (continued with weekly dips). My dips were TMPCC, saltwater. revive, quick freshwater and into QT(a bit aggressive). Lost 4 frags this way, and there was a lot of color loss. I went cutter happy when pulling and dipping my acros. Anything that didn't look right was tossed. I figured I'd rather turn a colony into 20 frags than lose it all. They grew out once, they'll do it again. All but two had full color back and new growth by the end of QT. Those two are starting to color up in the display. Yes it is a lot of work (especially when you've become accustomed to an automated tank), but worth it, but tossing 40+ species of Acro was not an option.

Thank you for the information!

It sounds like you were very thorough on your dips and that your lose % was still relatively low. I plan to lay out the details for my dipping in a day or so, but initially I am thinking I will dip with Levamisole for the first dip and then TMPCC for the following 5-6 dips. I do not think I am going to cut off the bases because several of my frags are very small and cutting off the bases would result in almost no frag at all lol. Instead I plan to thoroughly inspect each frag during each dip with a magnify glass (with an attached light) and remove any eggs. When I first found out about the problem I dipped the three worst looking frags in my tank and only found one egg sac and about 15 worms total.
 
have you thought about putting a cheap wrasse in your QT to possibly help pick off the worms. or even a clown goby.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13821043#post13821043 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Fireworm
have you thought about putting a cheap wrasse in your QT to possibly help pick off the worms. or even a clown goby.

I have only heard of a single species of wrasse (biochoeres cosmetes) that will actually pick the worms off the corals themselves. Unfortantely, this wrasse is not available in the US. The individual that swore by this wrasse was from Europe and said that lots of LFS there are placing these wrasse in their tanks just to fight AEFWs.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13821131#post13821131 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Fireworm
HMMMM...
That is interesting. Have you looked into the clown goby at all?

I haven't found any information stating they do eat AEFWs. Have you read otherwise somewhere? I am definitely open to new ideas. I know that there are several wrasses that can be "trained" to eat the worms when they are actually knocked off the corals by some method such as basting.
 
I have not read anything that comes flat out and says that, but every big sps tank that I see and read about, they all have clowns in them. They are constantly on or around the sps, so I have to think that they are cleaning them off. They might just be eating the mucas off of them, or they are eating mites or other coral pests off of them.

Might be worth a shot. I plan on getting at least one for my tank. I would like a yellow and a green.
 
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